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Monday, 25 July 2016

Questions (not) accepted for conference 2016 (contd)



Comment: Since there is no 'standard' way of 'working' the Steps (that is assuming one wishes to work them in the first place. After all they don't represent the sole means by which alcoholics recover – a fact explicitly acknowledged in the book Alcoholics Anonymous) there can be no “standard” guide. The Big Book outlines a possible (and “suggested”) approach but no more than that. Similarly the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions (authored by Bill W) offers no more than a commentary on the subject and can by no means be regarded as definitive. Finally recovery remains the responsibility of each individual (in the company of others), and the method adopted, and the manner of its implementation, their choice alone. No “special interpretations” (ie. 'expert' guidance) are required:

As finally expressed and offered, they [The Twelve Steps] are simple in language, plain in meaning. They are also workable by any person having a sincere desire to obtain and keep sobriety. The results are proof. Their simplicity and workability are such that no special interpretations, and certainly no reservations, have ever been necessary.” (Dr. Bob. Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers page 227)

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Saturday, 23 July 2016

Questions (not) accepted for conference 2016 (contd)



Comment: See “freedom of speech”.... and “parts of AA ARE highly dangerous” … and we've got a sneaking suspicion that there'll be another website appearing on the scene fairly soon that's going to cause more than a few eyebrows to raise!

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Tuesday, 19 July 2016

Questions (not) accepted for conference 2016



Comment: ie. no action

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Monday, 18 July 2016

Whatever happened to Paul ?


A recent email:

I've been following your useful blog and I would like to make some contribution as I agree with your general aims. The “cult” as you describe it, is spreading throughout AA now and causing division, suffering and acrimony wherever it goes. It reminds me of the story in the Big Book about the alcoholic raging through other people's lives like a tornado wreaking havoc, but being oblivious to the harm done to others in the process. I would like to tell you about my friend “Paul” (for anonymity I will not use his real name), who attended AA meetings a number of years ago. Apart from being an addict and alcoholic, he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. To help him control and cope with this condition he needed to take anti-psychotic medication and other treatments. He attended AA meetings in Surrey, I think these were in or near Hampton-Kingston area. He rang me up one day in great distress saying that his AA sponsor had told him he must come off all medication or he could not work the AA 12 step program, and he would be cold-shouldered by people at his home group. I don't know the name of his sponsor, but I do know that he was not a qualified Doctor. I think he was an actor. Anyway, Paul was convinced he needed to come off his medications in order to get sober. I tried to point out to him that this advice was not in accord with AA guidelines and was very dangerous. But the trouble was I was the only voice telling him this. He was attending a meeting where every single person was saying the same thing this sponsor was saying and he was convinced they must be right because of strength of numbers. He was also advised to follow a non AA website which promoted the same message. It seemed to me that he was attending a cult meeting as there was no room for dissent, it was all group speak dictated by this sponsor who's only qualifications were to act, or sell cars, or whatever it was he did for a living. Paul came off his medications and a few days later was sectioned into a mental hospital. Although Paul was a man in his 30's his parents took responsibility for him and gave him a new phone and changed his number, and he was told to avoid AA by his family. His family became very anti-AA. They moved him to stay with relatives in another part of the country to keep him away from that sponsor and the endless phone calls from cult followers telling him not to be “selfish” and do what his sponsor said, and have a life beyond all dreams... a false promise if ever there was given the particulars and circumstances. I lost touch with him after that.. I often wonder what happened to him. I hope he is well. This episode highlights the need for AA members to follow the Traditions and guidelines of AA which state quite clearly that no AA member should be playing Doctor. And even if a person is a Doctor, they should not be practising their profession within AA as AA should be forever non-professional. By the way, I have known AA members who have to take anti-psychotic medication and they can stay sober for many years and lead productive lives. So the cult doctrine about medication is untrue in my experience. And if people with serious mental problems are told they cannot get sober in AA because they have to stop taking their medications then these groups are effectively discriminating against the mentally ill. It brings AA into disrepute and into conflict with medicine, society and basic human rights. I think these cult meetings live in a bubble of their own delusions and self-justifications, and are incapable of seeing themselves as others see them. Just like the tornado alcoholic in the Big Book. It is like a criminal mindset, where the ends justify the means no matter what harm is done to others. Such a tragedy AA is heading in that direction. Regards L.”

Comment: Couldn't agree more!

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Our thanks to our correspondent

Thursday, 14 July 2016

Questions (not) accepted for conference 2016



Comment: The argument that our message is being “watered down” or “diluted” is frequently employed by cult groups (especially the Primary Purpose gang) to justify their own mangling of its meaning (eg. Gresham's Law and AA but see also Gresham's Law and Alcoholics Anonymous - a critique)

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Sunday, 10 July 2016

Questions (not) accepted for conference 2016



Comment: Absolutely! Don't want any of that troublesome controversy, people criticising how AA is run and so on .…. God forbid! But since the word “Minority” has been mentioned here's one we made earlier:


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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous … itself a minority!)

Friday, 8 July 2016

Questions (not) accepted for conference 2016 (contd)



Answer: No. See Tradition Five:

Five—Each group has but one primary purpose—to carry its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.” (short form)

5.—Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose —that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.” (long form) (our emphasis)

Note the use of the word “its” …... and draw ANY consequent conclusions

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)