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Monday 21 March 2016

Plymouth Road to Recovery (cult) group - claiming the moral high ground?


Usually the juxtaposition of these two phrases would send us into paroxysms of near hysterical laughter. The association of Plymouth Road to Recovery with even the most vestigial moral code is too ridiculous even to contemplate. But following our entries of 16th and 20th March we've received a slew of comments and emails (generally abusive) from members (clearly) of the aforementioned group who seem to want to claim that very position. They all follow a common pattern: how wonderful the R2R are ….. and how awful, sick, twisted blah di blah we are.. How can we sleep at night? We must be child molesters etc etc … we think you get the general idea ….. But the problem is that we're NOT the ones screwing (and impregnating) newcomers .... moreover we're NOT the ones ripping off literally thousands of pounds from the local intergroup … finally we're NOT the ones systematically bullying and abusing newcomers under the guise of so-called 'tough love' sponsorship. Nope .. not at all. In fact we ARE the ones who advocate the guidelines and principles of AA, and who regularly point out that there's absolutely NO mention in any of these of AA members being authorised to direct or control others, bully them, con them, let alone screw them or rip them off.

Thus should any of our regular cult audience feel the need to direct their moral outrage in our direction you may as well save yourselves the time... We're not going to put any of your comments on our blog (why should we bore AA members with your mad rants??). Your emails are simply consigned to our trusty bin (water of a duck's back!)... In fact the more you bluster the more evident becomes your own moral bankruptcy.

It must be very frustrating for those who are so used to controlling others being absolutely UNABLE to do anything to stop us. How does it feel? Not good we'd guess from your response.... something to think about maybe!! But unlikely given the bigoted mind set of the average cult member ...

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous .. and - it would seem – occasionally rather annoying!)

By the way …... we sleep fine at night!

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  3. Sadly their disciples have spread their total bollox throughout the land...went to 2 regular aa meetings last week and was confronted twice by the holier than though lecture...the never had a bad day brigade...they are so boring...spouting the same boring turgid crap..i couldn't stop blah blah...this guy asked if i needed help...blah blah...did these 6 simple suggestions...eh??....where in the plethora of aa literature does it highlight the 6 suggestions...get on your knees...2 home groups..call your sponsor every at a time of his suggestion..read from the just for today card and thge big book...call 2 newcomers...where did all this total drivel come from...i love the way they use the big book to go through 6 and 7...ie without taking breath or looking at themselves...but when it comes to all their other rules...none come from the big book!!...York needs to get real and shut these groups...they can call themselves what they want...but NOT aa...yours Ego

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  4. Sorry you have had to endure a lecture from the cult. Tedious, aren't they! They are wasting their time with me. I don't want what they have got. I have heard the cult often justify doing the so-called 6 daily suggestions by claiming “it is what works”. Well, I am over 30 years sober and I DON'T do 6 daily suggestions. So I can claim NOT doing them works. And nearly all the long sober people I have ever met in AA could claim likewise. To my knowledge, AA has one official daily suggestion card and that is the Just For Today card. And that card is optional, suggested, not compulsory. We don't need to complicate AA with yet another card. Those cult-created cards - and there are now many more convoluted versions of them being passed around some meetings, some with far more than 6 daily suggestions – have been cobbled together by a personality/cult leader/narcissist lunatic who thinks AA is not good enough for him, and he knows better than AA. Yeah, right!

    I have learned to ignore those silly (and frankly, boring) catchphrases like “Misery is optional.” “I've never had a bad day” etc. First of all they are not official AA mottoes. They are made up opinions and exaggerations. They are part of a co-dependency narrative which is all about feeling superior, and shaming and controlling other people. It is part of a "sweetener" to induce the weak, vulnerable and unwary into joining a gang in AA. I most certainly do not need to be part of a gang in AA to be strong, independent, and comfortably sober. And I do not need to put an exaggerated spin upon my recovery either - like claiming that I am happy all the time etc. For me “sanity” involves balance. Being restored to sanity means acquiring a healthy physical, emotional and spiritual balance in my life, not wallowing in exaggerations and frothy emotional extremism. I have come across many ex-cult members over the years who have needed therapy to recover from the cult experience. They eventually admit that their cult-dependency time was just one long dry-drunk. They also confess that trying to do X number of “daily suggestions” every day was pressuring, wearisome and unsustainable. It is not “keeping it simple” It is running on self-power, and co-dependence on a gang or a personality (sponsor), and not seeking, trusting in, and relying upon a Higher Power. It is not freedom, nor the kind of recovery I would want for myself.

    Sorry for another long wordy post. Best wishes.

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  5. As stated above I have noticed those cult daily suggestion cards have become more and more complicated over the years. There is someone in Ealing (guess who!) handing out his own cards that don't even pretend to have 6 suggestions anymore. More like getting on for 20. It's like a mental illness, something akin to OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). I'm so glad that I am not trapped in those daily OCD rituals made up by a nutcase who is so "sane" and “humble” he makes up his own program and literature. Newcomers who have eventually been restored to real sanity tell him and his parrots to f””k off.

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  6. can always tell by the eyes...they have a look of being trapped...caged...the words all sound good but its sadly said with a very hollow ring normally by an alkie with a scared hollow look...frightening bunch...plus they rarely smile....if they're so happy joyous and free why the f*ck can't they show it!!....its all about performance with these numpty's ... my favourite is "share for the newcomer"...they forget a) newcomers aren't stupid and b) a newcomer will hear what he/she wants to hear!!

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