AA MINORITY REPORT 2017 (revised)

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Cult Where to Find (GB)

 
We trust that this will prove an invaluable resource to both cult members and AA members. In the case of the former this will enable them to avoid completely any risk of wandering into an AA meeting by accident there to encounter our "diluted, garbled, distorted message" (their description of the AA recovery programme – ie. the one outlined in the book "Alcoholics Anonymous" and other AA conference approved literature) and thus remain safe within the security and purity of their own version – that is the one based upon sponsorship idolatry ("DO EXACTLY WHAT YOUR SPONSOR SAYS"), literature derived from non-AA sources, fundamental breaches of AA Traditions, and intrusive, misinformed and inappropriate "suggestions" into pretty well every area of an individual's private life (eg. use of prescribed medication, marriage counselling, therapeutic interventions, financial contributions …. – the list, as they say, goes on "ad infinitum"). In the case of AA members, these are free to go to whatever meetings they like and already have their own Where to Find (though the cult groups still persist in advertising their own groups in it). However, apart from the characteristics mentioned above, what they will find in a cult meeting is a slick marketing operation managed by a core group of cult members, with the usual strategies employed by cults in recruiting new members ("love bombing" etc). Control freaks abound so there need be no worries about finding a sponsor to "run your life for you". Independent thinking is much frowned upon (Why bother when your sponsor will do it for you?) as is, for that matter, any form of independent action.

We shall be adding cult meeting details initially to the "Posts" section of the site and then transferring them here, to our new Where to Find section (in alphabetical order by county or metropolitan area).

This list is far from comprehensive and we will be adding to it (and amending where necessary) as we receive the relevant information. 

We have now added "Contact" details (see below under each meeting) where complaints may be forwarded 

ENGLAND


BEDFORDSHIRE
Toddington: Primary Purpose
Saturday 19.00 Methodist Church Hall, High St
(Note: appears in both AA WTF and Primary Purpose directories. Until quite recently ran its own website but the account has now been suspended whilst being investigated for "phishing" activities)


BERKSHIRE
Newbury: Design for Living
Sunday 11.00 Greenham Community Centre, Nightingales, off Greenham Rd
(affiliated with Wimbledon Design for Living group - moreover both groups themselves have outside affiliations)
[now relocated to:
NEWBURY MIDWEEK RECOVERY
Wednesday 18.30, St George the Martyr Church Centre, 206 Andover Rd]


CAMBRIDGESHIRE
Cambridge: Cambridge Primary Purpose
Monday 19.00 Abbey College, Station Rd
Cambridge: Primary Purpose
Monday 19.45 St Paul's Church, Hills Rd


DEVON
Plymouth: Road to Recovery
Tuesday 19.30 Church of Christ the King, Armada Way
[Contact: comes under the Roman Catholic Diocese of Plymouth]
Friday 19.30 St Mathias Church Hall, North Hill
Saturday 11.00 Church of Christ the King, Armada Way
Sunday 17.30 (Sept-Dec)- Big Book study
             18.45 Mini Meeting
             19.30 Topic Meeting St Mathias Church Hall, North Hill


DORSET
Bournemouth: Road to Recovery
Wednesday 19.30 St Stephen's Church Hall, St Stephen's Way
[Current listing: BOURNEMOUTH ROAD TO RECOVERY
Wednesday 19.30 Richmond Hill St Andrews URC, 8 St Stephens Rd]


ESSEX
Barking: Big Book Study (The Way Out)
Saturday 20.00 Salvation Army, Ripple Rd
[Contact: comes under Salvation Army]
Chelmsford: Recovery
Friday 19.00 "Open Rd", Mansard House, 107-109 New London Rd
Chelmsford: Broomfield Hospital
Thursday 20.00 Medical Academic Unit, Broomfield Hospital, Court Rd

[Contact: comes under NHS]
Goodmayes: Altered Attitudes
Tuesday 20.00 All Saints Church Hall, Goodmayes Lane
[Contact: comes under Church of England] [closed down]
Southend-on-Sea: Recovery
Tuesday 19.30 The Store House, Coleman St Community Centre, Coleman St

[Contact: comes under Southend Vineyard]
Witham: Big Book Recovery
Sunday 18.00 Methodist Church Hall, Guithavon St

[Contact: comes under Methodist Church]


HAMPSHIRE
Southsea: Back To Basics
Monday 19.00 St Simon's Church, Waverley Road,Portsmouth
(outside affiliation with the Back to Basics movement)
[Contact: comes under Church of England]
Southampton: Road to Recovery
Saturday 19.30 United Reformed Church, St Johns Rd
(Note: We have been informed that this group MAY have reverted to AA, dropping the use of the group title Road to Recovery (and now employing the name Hedge End) and abandoning moreover its connections with other Road to Recovery (cult) groups together with their abusive and dogmatic conduct and message. Any confirmation (either way) on this would be welcome for we have no desire whatsoever to keep a group listed here for one moment longer than is necessary. [Note: the latest information received on this meeting is that it has now closed]


KENT
East
Canterbury: Big Book Step & Tradition
Friday 19.30 Friends Meeting House, The Friars 
[Contact: comes under Quakers]
Hythe
Monday 20.00 Methodist Church, Rampart Rd
Kearsney (Dover): Into Action
Wednesday 19.30 Kearsney Manor Nursing Home, Alkham Valley Rd
(used to be quite an active cult centre but operations seems to have switched to Tankerton Tuesday)[closed down - expelled by landlords]
Margate
Friday 19.45 St John's Community Centre, St John's Church, Victoria Rd
(some cult influence here but group appears to have lost direction – formed a kind of once-a-month- hybrid with Al Anon participation – in breach of AA traditions)
Tankerton
Tuesday 19.45 Tankerton Evangelical Church
[Contact: comes under Evangelical Church]
Herne Bay: Big Book Salvation
Wednesday 19.30 The Retreat, RC Church, Clarence Rd
(affiliated with the Primary Purpose movement - included in their directory)
[Contact: comes under Roman Catholic Church][closed - due to lack of interest on the part of local members]
Westgate-on-Sea: Morning Big Book Study
Sunday 10.00 The Bake House, 21 St Mildreds Rd
 
North
Beckenham: Primary Purpose Big Book Step Study
Wednesday 19.45 St Edmunds Church Hall, Village Way
(affiliated with the Primary Purpose movement - included in a number of their directories)
[Contact: comes under Roman Catholic Church]
Bexleyheath: Road to Recovery
Monday 19.30 The Booth, The Salvation Army, Broadway
[seems to have disappeared from radar?]
Sidcup: Into Action Multi-Mtg
Thursday 19.45 Emmanuel Methodist Church, Hadlow Rd
[Contact: comes under Emmanuel Methodist Church]
Sidcup: Into Action Multi-Mtg
Sunday 19.45 Emmanuel Methodist Church, Hadlow Rd
(both the Sidcup meetings form part of the Primary Purpose network (in breach of AA traditions of non-affiliation) – they carry links to this on their website, together with the rather unconvincing and disingenuous disclaimer that such inclusions do not constitute an endorsement - or otherwise - of this movement – for more information on the Primary Purpose movement click here for pdf download. However, and in brief, the Primary Purpose agenda is essentially predicated upon a series of lies – that the AA message has become "garbled", that this is a result of an influx of "treatment centre" members who treat AA meetings as therapy sessions, and that as a result recovery rates have fallen, and all this despite evidence (independent) to the contrary


West
Gravesend: Beginners
Tuesday 20.00 Emmanuel Baptist Church, Windmill St
[Contact: comes under South Eastern Baptist Association]
Rochester: Big Book Step (Beginners)
Monday 20.00 The Quaker Meeting House, Northgate
[Contact: comes under Quakers]
Rochester Lunchtime Big Book Study
Wednesday Quakers Meeting House, Northgate
[Contact: comes under Quakers]
Rochester:
Saturday 10.45 The Quaker Meeting House, Northgate
Strood: There is a Solution
Thursday 20.00 St Nicholas with St Mary's Church 
[Contact: comes under Church of England]


LANCASHIRE
Barnoldswick: Back To Basics
Tuesday 19.30, Holy Trinity Church, Skipton Road, Barnoldswick
(outside affiliation with the Back to Basics movement)
[Contact: comes under Church of England]
Southport: Back To Basics
Tuesday 20.00 Quaker Meeting Rooms, Court Road, Southport
(outside affiliation with the Back to Basics movement)
[Contact: comes under Quakers]


LONDON (including Greater London)
N21
Winchmore Hill: There is a Solution
Monday 20.00 Winchmore Hill Methodist Church, Green Lanes
[Contact: comes under Methodist Church]
Winchmore Hill: Primary Purpose Beginners
Friday 20.00 Winchmore Hill Methodist Church, Green Lanes
SE10
Greenwich: Road to Recovery
Tuesday 19.30 Devonshire Drive Baptist Church, Devonshire Drive
[Contact: comes under Baptist Church]
SW4
Battersea: Beginners
Tuesday 19.30 St Barnabas Church, Lavender Gdns
[Contact: comes under Church of England]
SW  
South Lambeth Beginners: Big Book Study
Friday  19.00 St Annes and All Saints Church, Miles St, South Lambeth Rd
[Contact: comes under Church of England]
SW8
Lambeth Beginners Step Monday
Monday 19.00 St Annes and All Saints Church, Miles St, South Lambeth Rd   
[Contact: comes under Church of England]
SW8
Vauxhall: London Beginners
Thursday 19.00 Ashmole Community Hall, 2 Meadow Rd
[Contact: comes under Ashmole Tenants Hall]
SW19
Wimbledon: Design for Living Group
Sunday 10.30 William Morris Meeting Rooms, The Broadway
(a group with outside affiliations)
[Contact: comes under William Morris Meeting Rooms]
W8
Kensington: Road to Recovery/As Bill Sees It
Monday 19.30 Kensington United Reformed Church, Allen St
[Contact: comes under United Reformed Church]
Kensington: Road to Recovery
Wednesday 19.30 Our Lady of Mt Carmel Church, Kensington Church St
[Contact: comes under Roman Catholic Church]
W11
Notting Hill: Road to Recovery/A Vision for You
Friday 19.30 St Johns Church, Lansdowne Crescent
(although currently listed at 59a Portobello Rd)

W13
[We have received a number of detailed complaints about the activities of these groups and their association with the cult. All these groups come under South Middlesex Intergroup, London Region (North)].

And here is the latest list (as of 30/07/11) for the Ealing 'project'. It is rather difficult to determine exactly how many of these are actually functioning at the moment and indeed which ones still subscribe to the cult 'ethos' of “carrying the message “ through bullying and coercion... but nevertheless here we go:


Mon 07:30 West Ealing: Great Feeling in Ealing, 1 Bayham Road Junction with Bedford Road. (seems to have reverted to AA)
Mon 13:00 West Ealing: Community Centre, Green Man Lane
[Contact: comes under Green Man Lane]
Mon 18:00 West Ealing: A Vision For You, 1 Bayham Road Junction with Bedford Rd
[Contact: comes under Ealing Centre for Independent Living]
Tue 07:30 Ealing: Healthy Feeling in Ealing, 1 Bayham Road Junction with Bedford Rd (seems to have reverted to AA)
Tue 09.45 West Ealing: Big Book Happy Focus, Community Centre, Green Man Lane (reported closed down due to lack of support)
Wed 07:30 West Ealing: A.M Reflections, 1 Bayham Rd Junction with Bedford Rd
Wed 13:00 West Ealing: Community Centre, Green Man Lane
Wed 18:00 West Ealing: Community Centre, Green Man Lane
Wed 19:30 West Ealing: Big Book Focus, Community Centre, Green Man Lane
Thurs 07:30 West Ealing: Radiant Feeling, 1 Bayham Road Junction with Bedford Road
Thurs 09.45 West Ealing: Big Book Joyous Focus, Community Centre, Green Man Lane. (closed)
Thurs 13:00 West Ealing: Green Man Big Book Discussion Community Centre, Green Man Lane
Thurs 18:00 West Ealing: Happy, Joyous & Free, 1 Bayham Road Corner of Bedford Road
Fri 07:30 West Ealing: 1 Bayham Rd Junction with Bedford Road
Sat 09:00 West Ealing: Wonderful Feeling in Ealing, 1 Bayham Road Junction with Bedford Road (definitely cult)
Sat 18:00 West Ealing: 1 Bayham Rd, Junction with Bedford Road
Sun 08:45 West Ealing: Sponsored Walks, 1 Bayham Rd Junction with Bedford Road (definitely cult)
Sun 13:30 West Ealing: 1 Bayham Rd Junction with Bedford Road
Sun 19:00 West Ealing: Step & Tradition, 1 Bayham Rd, Junction with Bedford Road (definitely cult)
(We will update this list accordingly as we receive the information)


MIDDLESEX
Enfield: Big Book Study
Saturday 18.00 Holy Family Convent, London Road
(outside affiliation with the Primary Purpose movement)

[no longer listed on AA website]
Hampton Wick: How It Works Beginners
Friday 19.00 St Edward's Day Centre, Sons of Divine Providence, 13 Lower Teddington Rd
Hampton Wick: How It Works Big Book Step
Friday Meeting 20.30 (address - as above)

[Contact: comes under The Sons of Divine Providence]


OXFORDSHIRE
Oxford: Warneford Hospital
Thursday 19.30 McKinnes Room, Warneford Hospital, Old Rd, Headington
(connections with the Toddington Primary Purpose group)
[Update: see here]


SURREY
Guildford: Beginners
Monday 20.00 St Mary's Church Community Hall, Aldershot Rd 
[Contact: comes under Roman Catholic Church][defunct]
Purley: There is a Solution
Monday 19.30
Saturday 09.30
   See local Where to Find:
Venues: United Reformed Church, Brighton Rd
[Contact: comes under United Reformed Church]
                 St. Swithuns Church, Grovelands Rd
[Contact: comes under Church of England]
(Affiliated with the Primary Purpose movement - listed in their directory. The Purley group is involved in running non-AA conventions (in breach of AA guidelines) with the usual imported US Primary Purpose speakers. Fliers of these events have been circulated at AA meetings (again in breach of AA Traditions) and the speakers themselves prominently advertised (again in breach of AA Traditions - the one about "principles before personalities"). No proper accounting methods have been employed to record the distribution of the monies charged for attendance at these gatherings - in some cases for substantial amounts)

Richmond: How it Works
Tuesday 20.00 Unitarian Church, Ormond Rd
[Contact: comes under Unitarian Church]
 
Esher Green
Saturday 18.30 Esher Green Baptist Church
Park Rd 
[Contact: comes under Baptist Church]

SUSSEX (EAST) 
Hastings: Step and Tradition
Saturday 18.00 Repository Room, St Mary Star of the Sea RC Church, High St, Old Town 
[Contact: comes under Roman Catholic Church] 

Eastbourne: There is a Solution
Friday 19.30 Elim Church, Hartfield Rd 
[Contact: comes under Elim Church]
 

WARWICKSHIRE 
Stratford upon Avon: Big Book Study
Sunday 19.30 United Reformed Church, Rother St.
[Contact: comes under United Reformed Church]   

YORKSHIRE
Halifax Primary Purpose Group
Saturday 10.30 The Ebenezer Center, St. James Road
[Contact: comes under Ebenezer Centre Tel: 01422 342654]
(outside affiliation with the Primary Purpose movement) 

Harrogate Back To Basics Meeting
Wednesday 6:30 Harrogate Baptist Church. Victoria Avenue,
[Contact: comes under Baptist Church]
(described in the AA directory as a Big Book multi-meeting group but affiliated with the Back to Basics movement – a US separately incorporated “not for profit” outside enterprise)

Sheffield: Primary Purpose Big Book Study
Monday 19.00 259 Pitsmoor Rd 
[Contact: comes under NHS Sheffield Health and Social Care]
(Note: this group appears in both AA WTF and in Primary Purpose directories)


SCOTLAND


ABERDEEN
Aberdeen: Back To Basics 12 Step Meeting
Wednesday 20.00 St Marks Church, Rosemount Viaduct

[now listed at:  Linksfield Day Care Centre, 8 Linksfield Place]
[Contact: comes under Linksfield Day Care Centre]
(affiliated with the Back to Basics movement - an outside organisation - and one which continues to misrepresent AA recovery rates)
Aberdeen: Big Book Workshop
Thursday 19.30 St Peter's Church, Chapel Close, Castlegate
[Contact: comes under Roman Catholic Church]
(Note: appears in both AA WTF and Primary Purpose directories)


GLASGOW
Priesthill: Big Book Study
Wednesday 20.00 Priesthill Community Centre, Priesthill Rd
[Contact: comes under Church of Scotland]
(Note: this group appears in both AA WTF and Primary Purpose directories)


LANARKSHIRE
Motherwell: Primary Purpose Big Book
Monday 20.00 Motherwell Baptist Church, Windmill St
[Contact: comes under Baptist Union of Scotland]
(Note: this group appears in both AA WTF and in Primary Purpose directories)


WALES


PEMBROKESHIRE
Johnston: Primary Purpose Big Book Study
Tuesday 20.00 'Oasis', Nr Johnston Baptist Church, Glebelands
(affiliation with the Primary Purpose movement and appears in their directory)


 
Finally, groups which carry the titles: "Road to Recovery", "Primary Purpose", "Beginners", "Newcomers", "Vision for You" should be viewed with some circumspection (though it should be emphasised here that the use of these epithets does not necessarily imply a cult connection). However, cult members are very keen on getting to newcomers quickly, and focus a considerable amount of their energy on targeting the most vulnerable within the Fellowship. They are therefore very enthusiastic about setting up meetings specifically focussed on this "target market". It is our view that ALL AA meetings exist to assist the newcomer and that there should be no necessity for these so-called "specialist" meetings - this same principle applies to so-called "non-restrictive" meetings, which similarly break the most fundamental AA Tradition - that of the sole membership requirement.