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Showing posts with label Wally P. Show all posts

Saturday, 16 December 2017

Re: Surrey St Sunday meeting (Croydon)


From our correspondent:

"Dear AA cultwatch,......

Two months ago some male members from the group began expressing concerns that during Sunday fellowship a group claiming to be 'Back to Basics' where using very assertive canvassing and recruitment techniques to get
men on their program. 

...... this group discuss, for example, that there is no need for a sponsor as it is not in the Big Book. All this of course occurred outside of an AA setting. Nevertheless I relayed my concerns, and those of the other men, to the all (apart from me) female committee. 

In the last week, things have progressed to the point that Back to Basics are now using the same room that AA have their meetings in to host post meeting group sessions. My phone calls to GSO confirm that Back to Basics is not endorsed by AA. B2B has crossed the line and is becoming increasingly clear that men are no longer returning to Surrey st meetings as they feel B2B is not 'in the spirit of AA'. 

B2B are subtle with their approach and never mention B2B when they share at either meeting. Please spread the word regarding Back to Basics and what is happening with AA in Croydon....." (edits to preserve anonymity)

Comment: Back to Basics has essentially been set up as Wally P's pension pot. It's a programme rip off that makes all sorts of claims to success rates (as yet unsubstantiated). It forms part of the Big Book recovery 'industry' where 'experts' of all shapes and sizes peddle their wares in the hope of making a few bucks (and massaging their already frail egos) on the side. But if you don't fancy the text based (overnight success 'guaranteed') approach then you can always opt to join the sponsor 'fetishists' (Road to Recovery, Joys of Recovery, Clancy I blah blah blah) club. Here you can happily dispense with the need to seek out a Higher Power .. one will be provided for you ... in the shape of yet another 'wise guy' (or gal .. let's not be sexist here!) who will happily organise your life for you .. No need to think for yourself or ask for God's guidance (if you're inclined that way). Just ring up your sponsor and they'll tell you ALL you need to know and do ... Or ...... you could just go along to a bog standard AA meeting, sit down, drink your beverage, munch on a biccie and listen to other people as they share their experience of getting and staying sober in the REAL world You might even chip in with a few thoughts yourself. And then you just go out and DO it! And guess what! That works as well! Who'd have thought it! It couldn't be that simple could it? Yep. It's just that simple....

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous .. and big fans of Keeping It Simple)

PS Thanks to our correspondent

Thursday, 16 March 2017

Cult meeting notice



More details (not mentioned on the AA website): the group is part of the Road to Recovery franchise ... Sharing MUST centre on sponsorship .. remember in the cult the Higher Power IS your sponsor ..oh! ... nearly forgot! No FUCKING swearing permitted!

What a load of bollocks!

The Fellas (Frigging Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS For other cults in AA check out Primary Purpose and Back to Basics (the latter a nice little earner!)

Thursday, 13 October 2016

Missing a moral 'compass'?


Have you ever encountered members who seem to have completely mislaid their ethical or moral 'compass' (if they ever had one in the first place)? You know the type ….. they'll happily lecture everyone else on how to practise the programme 'right' and then do the precise opposite themselves. People like David B (founder of the Joys of Recovery and its various offshoots - didn't have a sponsor but insisted everyone else had to have one!), David C (took over the reins after the welcome demise of David B - a grade A religious bigot and control freak – last seen down El Cerrito way spreading the 'disease'!), Wayne P (sponsored by Clancy – a serial philanderer – he seems to have a big problem keeping his trousers on), Clancy (Pacific Group - likes to play the big shot with a sideline in shaming others … in other words … a thug!), Wally P (a serial monogamist who runs Back to Basics – a nice little earner), Joe and Charlie (Primary Purpose – yet more control freaks who liked to bore AA members into recovery with their incessant lecturing), Mike Quinones (serial sexual predator who ran the Midtown Groups – also sponsored by Clancy) not to mention AA's innumerable (and growing) army of recovery 'experts' eagerly mimicking their efforts as they busily rush about organising AA (?) 'workshops', churning out yet more audio files on so-called 'fast track' recovery, each one desperately seeking the attention of anyone with a few bucks to spare, and the poor judgement to pass them in their direction...... You have! We thought so ….. And then you must have wondered what kind of guy would behave like that? What must possess them? Are they stupid? Or are they just sick.... or sicker than the rest of us? Well wonder no more …. all will be revealed – specifically Narcissistic Personality Disorder DSM-5 (pp. 9-10)

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS An update on our new campaign to be published shortly …. we've been very busy behind the scenes!

Thursday, 24 July 2014

Back to Basics=Wally P= terminal boredom!


Every now and then we get an email from a Back to Basic's apologist giving us yet another history lesson (which version?) about AA, and the antecedents of the aforementioned Wally's unique take on the recovery programme. Again we are informed how badly AA is faring and how mislead we all are. Once again the same old entirely inaccurate quotes about AA recovery rates are rolled out (this happens with such mind-numbing regularity that we don't even bother to cite the corrective passage in the Big Book in response to these idiots anymore). According to this latest missive it's all Bill Wilson's fault! Apparently (or so our recovery 'expert' informs us) the rot set in with the publication of the “12 Steps and 12 Traditions” (authored by the infamous Bill Wilson, destroyer of AA). Thereafter we all became hell-bent (or so we're told) on stopping newcomers from doing the steps (or at least delaying them) instead of belting them through in double-fast time. The fact that they'll probably be as clueless at the end of the process as they were at the beginning is neither here nor there. So our SUGGESTION to all you recovery 'gurus' out there (and you do seem to be multiplying) is invest some of your not-so-hard-earned money from the sales of your dubious literature and buy some specs! That way you might overcome your congenital eye defects, which can be the only possible explanation for your inability to grasp some really REALLY 'basic' facts. Or perhaps you fall into that category of being “constitutionally incapable”. Or then again maybe you're just plain thick! Who can say!

For an analysis of the Back to Basics/Primary Purpose scam see: An Enquiry into Primary Purpose and Back to Basics AA Groups 

For an exhaustive, properly researched and ACCURATE presentation on AA recovery rates see: Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) Recovery Outcome Rates - Contemporary Myth and Misinterpretation 

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Coming soon! (drum roll followed by wild applause). Our very own slightly irreverent and even occasionally critical commentary of the Big Book (in serialised form)! Everything will be given the 'once-over' (unlike, for example, Joe and Charlie who just leave out anything they don't agree with). We will quite naturally be charging you vast sums of money for the privilege of being on the receiving end of our penetrative insights – NOT! We will also be producing a wide selection of very expensive supporting literature (work sheets, flashy brochures, commentaries on our commentaries, CDs, DVDs, mpegs, jpegs, clothing pegs etc) together with all manner of novelty toys, badges, jewellery, deodorants, baseball caps and anything else we can think of to part you from your cash – NOT! Members of the team will also be available personally to take anyone with enough 'readies' through the recovery programme – NOT! Alternatively speakers can be provided for events GRATIS (subject to the usual provisions: first class food and accommodation, first class travel, first class groupies etc). Send email for details on dressing room requirements!! These alone will be spectacularly exorbitant! - NOT!

Tuesday, 6 May 2014

Back to Basics/Primary Purpose


Extracts from the aacultwatch forum (old):

In this USA area, about 2 1/2 years ago in 2008, a Yellow cover book - "Back to Basics " by Wally P.,   began to be passed around; soon many were buying it and some malcontented people from a few AA groups  began to gather to discuss the book.  They were generally outspoken and not received well by AA groups and the strong opposition seemed to bond the malcontents to each other.  They had a fixed idea of how the 12 steps should be done, an out of balance view of AA history and statistics.  Like claiming that AA once had 75% success rate; and futher claimed AA lost that sucess rate when AA became organized! 
The movement has grown more active and now "seeds"  meetings and discussion rooms with individuals who push their views.  Now, there seems to be an organized effort for 6 to 10 "Back to Basics" people to meet before a target meeting - they split up a few small groups - go to various tables or each Meeting Room and steer discussions into issues which give them a format to present half truths and their "sprituality" claims. 
Many of us "regular" AA people are concerned.  It seems to me that your experiences are similar and may be repeated here in this USA area.  I found your "Cultwatch" site on the Bing search engine.  The information is valuable and appreciated by me and I have passed the web address on to a DCM friend.” 
Hi …....., you have given an a description of a couple of groups which started in my area in the UK a couple of years ago, though they are linked to Primary Purpose, they make similar distorted claims on statistics, preach "the first one hundred" this, the "Big Book authors" that; and make a big point that they are " recoverED." They also targeted other meetings in a similar way, which did not go down well especially when these groups also received the fallout of confused newcomers and complaints. There are 3 aabacktobasics groups in the UK, 2 in Scotland and one on the South Coast.
Leaving aside for a moment that aabacktobasics is a parasitic organisation riding on the back of AA, sucking finance and service time away from the AA World Service structure, the website and stuff on You-tube looks relatively harmless on the surface until you look closely at what's underneath. The content in the yellow books is disturbing. There is a clever manipulation of AA history and statistics, using selected bits of archive material, which meticulously removes all of the balanced viewpoints found in the official AA history. This leaves the reader with the impression the AA groups in the 1940s were following the Oxford Group absolutes. No mention that the earliest AA groups rejected these absolutes and split from the Oxford Group between 1937 and 1940. They say the most convincing lies are the ones laced with truth. I'm sure it will fool a lot of people who have little knowledge of official AA history.

The terminology in the yellow books is the opposite of AA and one of control, obligation and expectation on the newcomer. Before he has a chance to properly de-fog from alcohol and decide for himself whether he is an alcoholic, the newcomer is expected to start doing the steps, including a moral inventory of himself with his assigned sponsor. (No mention of the choice of being able to do this with someone outside AA, such as a clergyman or psychologist, as suggested in chapter 6 of the Big Book.) Then he is expected to sponsor another newcomer through the process after 4 weeks.

The defined guidance from "two-way prayer" is also disconcerting and of a type warned against in step 11. Thoughts (from God?) are written down, shared with others, rationalised and to be obeyed. It looks like a cult to me, complete with a figurehead as leader, Wally P; no doubt the executive director of the "not for profit" foundation and publishing company enjoys a very good salary.

Here is some online information which you might find helpful. It might be good idea to remind your intergroup public information committee of this line in Concept 12, warranty five: "Whenever and however we can, we shall need to inform the general public also; especially upon misuses of the name Alcoholics Anonymous."

Independent competitive fundraising to AA, Back to Basics foundation:
Independent competitive literature and merchandise to AA;


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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PPS For new aacultwatch forum see here. Have your say!

Wednesday, 23 April 2014

Primary Purpose/Back to Basics


See here

Extract:

A loosely connected international network of websites has created a “virtual” Primary Purpose intergroup, facilitating the global communication of an ideology and a cause which comes from literature and website sources outside of AA. This website network has enabled the formation of affiliated AA groups in at least eleven countries, by like minded AA members who share this ideology and cause. This cause appears to be the introduction of Oxford Group principles and methods, which were criticised by Bill W. as not being inclusive to all alcoholics; and to teach an interpretation of the AA programme, sourced from outside of the group conscience of AA.”

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Wednesday, 27 November 2013

AA Back to Basics


A tip-off to all London intergroups via the unofficial grapevine

Coming up soon….
The Messiah Complex World Tour’…

Undiluted’ Cult Workshop

Kingston United Reformed Church
Richard Mayo Centre
Eden Street
Kingston Upon Thames, KT1 1HZ
March 7- 9, 2014

Details of the world tour: http://www.aabacktobasics.org/
And a flyer for the Kingston event….



Yep, Wally P’s back on stage in 2014, with his brand new “Messiah Complex World Tour’’ coming to London in March with the ‘UNDILUTED’ show in Kingston. (Not be confused with Russell Brand’s ‘The Messiah Complex World Tour’ at the O2 Academy, Brixton, 9th March, 2014). Like Wally, comedian Russell Brand is also back on stage with his brand new show -- "Messiah Complex". (A 'Messiah Complex' is a mental disorder where the sufferer thinks they might be God, and we think the show’s going to be hilarious) Now then, here’s a coincidence - Two ‘Messiah Complex’ comedy shows coming to town in one weekend! - an act of Providence even?  For details of the Russell Brand show see below.

With Wally P’s double act however, there’s the serious downside to any hilarity generated. AA groups in the UK may need to brace themselves for a fresh infiltration of hyped up cocaine addicts/ alcoholics infected with the ‘Wally Messiah Complex’, followed by a mass exodus of alcoholics to Rational Recovery. Symptoms of those so afflicted may be recognised by overt displays of “double think,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink and “duckspeak.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Newspeak_words The worst infected cases may also exude a vociferous harping back to the Oxford Group’s successful 75% failure in sobering up alcoholics - a classic example of the contradictory terms typically ejaculated in “duckspeak.”

Here’s a little insight into how the double-thinking, duck-speaking, Wally cult complex works in the USA, (an AA member’s post on our aacultwatch forum
(‘Back to Basics Movement’ thread, 22/02/11)

In this USA area, about 2 1/2 years ago in 2008, a Yellow cover book - "Back to Basics " by Wally P., began to be passed around; soon many were buying it and some malcontented people from a few AA groups began to gather to discuss the book. They were generally outspoken and not recieved well by AA groups and the strong opposition seemed to bond the malcontents to each other. They had a fixed idea of how the 12 steps should be done, an out of balance view of AA history and statistics. Like claiming that AA once had 75% success rate; and futher claimed AA lost that sucess rate when AA became organized!

The movement has grown more active and now "seeds" meetings and discussion rooms with individuals who push thier views. Now, there seems to be an organized effort for 6 to 10 "Back to Basics" people to meet before a target meeting - they split up a few small groups - go to various tables or each Meeting Room and steer discussions into issues which give them a format to present half truths and thier "sprituality" claims.

Many of us "regular" AA people are concerned. It seems to me that your experiences are similar and may be repeated here in this USA area. I found your "Cultwatch" site on the Bing search engine. The information is valuable and appreciated by me and I have passed the web address on to a DCM friend.”



(Not anonymous) cult leader Wally Paton (pictured on left, with side kick) in Dallas, 12/7/01. (Photo Courtesy of Wally’s Faith With Works Publishing Company) http://www.aabacktobasics.org/Faith%20With%20Works%20Pub%20Co/index.html 


Comment: Our usual thanks to the AA member who alerted us to this cocaine addict’s enterprising event. Wally P’s Back to Basics, is a multi purpose 12 Step cult - not to be confused with Alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous.

Of course, the twisting of history through an educational programme in which certain historical facts are selectively chosen whilst others are carefully erased, in order to present a half truth which is then laced with a few lies, is not a new idea. It is a well known method of millieu control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milieu_control used by politicians, conmen, bankers, insurance brokers, cult leaders and totalitarian regimes, in order to control the masses. As George Orwell once wrote,

“…And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’ And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. ‘Reality control’, they called it: in Newspeak, doublethink.” - George Orwell, (Nineteen Eighty-Four, part I, chapter III)
Since we’re still happily living in the uncontrolled reality of ‘oldspeak,’ our memories remind us of a number of things, too many in fact, to put on the blog all in one go. So we’ve decided to run a series of “Back to Basics Specials” between now and March 2014. In the mean time though, why not get back to basics and ponder the undiluted (or should we say uncensored) ‘oldspeak’ of the AA Co-founders in 1939 and 1940, as they appear in AA Conference Approved literature?

Have definitely shaken off the shackles of the Oxford Group.” –Dr. Bob, 2nd January 1940 (Dr. Bob and the Good Oldtimers p. 218)

1. The principle of aggressive evangelism so prominent as an Oxford Group attitude had to be dropped in order to get any result with alcoholics. Experience showed that this principle, which may have been absolutely vital to the success of the Oxford Group, would seldom touch neurotics of our hue.” …. ….“3. The principles of honesty, purity, unselfishness, and love are as much a goal for A.A. members and are as much practiced by them as by any other group of people; yet we found that when the word ‘absolute’ was put in front of these atttributes, they either turned people away by the hundreds or gave a temporary spiritual inflation resulting in collapse.” “4. It was discovered that all forms of coercion, both direct, and indirect, had to be dropped….” –Bill W., 30th October 1940. (Extracts, Pass It On p.172)

After you’ve had time to ponder, we also suggest taking a tip out of the undiluted Big Book p.102 http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_bigbook_chapt7.pdf (the page we havent seen quoted by Wally) Then plan to pop along to one of the legitimate (non cult) social events to be held in London on the weekend, March 7- 9, 2014. There’s lots to choose from, but heres a few suggestions.

Russell Brand: “The Messiah Complex World Tour” 9th March 2014, O2 Academy Brixton

Ellie Goulding
9th March 2014, The O2, theo2.co.uk 


Mark Thomas: “100 Acts of Minor Dissent”

8th Mar 2014, Leicester Square Theatre  http://www.londondrum.com/events/?p=21492

The Stranglers
8th Mar 2014, Hammersmith Apollo http://www.londondrum.com/events/?p=23505 


Verdi’s “Rigoletto”
7th Mar 2014, London Coliseum


Might see you at the O2 Academy, we’re going to have a fun weekend!

Cheerio,

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)


P.S. If any of these entertainments don’t grab your fancy, you could always nip along to the “most sordid spot on earth” (Big Book p. 102) - We’ll leave that one to your imagination! Or you can see more of Wally P. for free in AA Minority Report 2013. Click here

Friday, 14 December 2012

Wednesday, 20 June 2012

The Four Absolutes


Extract:

I have no doubt that David C was the author of the sexual conduct section, and the recommended reading list, and indeed much of the rest of the document as well. It is in his distinctive cold mechanical style and has his "spiritual fingerprints" all over it. The entire document is called "Companion to the Big Book" and was given to me some years ago now by a young woman who was greatly distressed at having been given this document at the Kingston Hill meeting ( now Hampton Wick [Friday]). She shared at my home group and was in tears about it. I asked her to give me the document, which she did the following week. The entire document runs into nearly 60 pages, only 2 of which I scanned and posted to you. This young lady, who has since left AA, told me that John B was most annoyed at her when she threatened to send it to GSO in York. …..... Until I saw your website I really didn’t pay all that much attention to the document, I read through it briefly …..... and then put it away. It was sitting on my book shelf largely ignored for years!

Here is a quote from the AA beginners website discussing Step 12, It is also found word for word in the document "Companion to the Big Book"

We have also come across other ways of testing whether our behaviour is right. Perhaps they might be helpful to you: If we are faced with a choice, it is often easier to say what is not God's will. For example, it cannot be God's will that we do anything dishonest, impure, selfish or unloving (these were the guides used by a lot of the early AAs).”

Now this idea is taken from a book by Wally P called Back to Basics........ It was supposedly the practice of the early Oxford Group members to "discern" the "will of God" by applying the Four Absolutes to any idea or inspiration one had "received" during morning meditation and "quiet time"

[Note: the Four Absolutes themselves are supposedly derived from a book by Dr R Speer: “The Principles of Jesus”. The Four Absolutes. See also: What did A.A. learn from the Oxford Group and why did they leave them?]

Of course, all this stuff about what the Oxford Group did, and applying the Four Absolutes etc, arrogantly assumes that you believe in the same Higher Power - the same God - as Bill W and the founders; and indeed the same God as David C and his collaborator. Unfortunately for them I don't. I have a Higher Power of my own understanding who doesn't send cryptic messages via "quiet time" which need to be tested by applying Four Absolutes, and then have to be further endorsed and verified by an approved sponsor …...... Real awkward customer I am!”

(our edits)

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Our usual thanks to this contributor

Tuesday, 21 February 2012

AA Minority report 2012 (continued)(5)


The assertive leadership in protection of “our common welfare” was well demonstrated by Bill W, the “trusted servants” involved with Chuck D. in 1958 and recently by those in the Toronto intergroup in Canada:

Toronto’s A.A. Intergroup Bounces Atheists after Spirited Battle” by Dirk Hanson, The Fix, 06/06/11, issue 141:

Is There A Place For Atheists in Alcoholics Anonymous? – A long-simmering feud is spreading around the world, after one AA establishment voted to expel two atheist/agnostic groups in Canada” by Jesse Beach, The Fix 14/06/11: http://www.alternet.org/story/151294/is_there_a_place_for_atheists_in_alcoholics_anonymous?akid=7112.275856.JI6Ij2&rd=1&t=5

No doubt the courageous Toronto “trusted servants” have received plenty of “accusations…… gobs of rumour, gossip and general scuttle-butt” (Concept IX), perhaps attempts to twist warranty five “incitement to public controversy,” to try and throw them off beam. However, although it is unfortunate this matter has gone public, when compared to the incitement to public controversy caused by the behaviour in cult groups described in the Washington Post and The Independent, and the potential incitement to public controversy to be caused by A.A groups re-writing the A.A. program, each according to their dictator’s own sundry ideas, personal beliefs and prejudices, the article does show A.A. (In Canada at least) to have a legitimate organised structure with a duly elected responsibility and authority, rather than a headless anarchy.

Salute to Canada – Our congratulations and thanks to Canada; no finer AA exists.” (Bill W. May 1951, Language of the Heart page 191)

For an A.A. group to re-write the Twelve Steps is to violate Tradition 4 (Long Form).

For instance no group or intergroup could feel free to initiate, without consultation, any publicity that might affect AA as a whole. Nor could it assume to represent the whole of Alcoholics Anonymous by printing and distributing anything purporting to be AA standard literature” (Bill W. A.A. Grapevine March 1948,  Language of the Heart page 81).

Our literature is a principle means by which A.A. recovery, unity, and service are facilitated” (Concept XI).

And again, “Some [of the Washingtonian local groups] dipped into their treasuries to finance their own publications. There was no overall editorial policy……We are sure that if the original Washingtonians could return to this planet they would be glad to see us learning from their mistakes…… Had we lived in their day we might have made the same errors. Perhaps we are beginning to make some of them now.” (Bill W. AA Grapevine August 1945. Language of the Heart page 5) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washingtonian_movement

However, the principle applied to the atheist-agnostic groups in Toronto ought to be applied to any dual purpose group presenting itself as an “on your knees pray to God” Christian “early AA” - neo Oxford Group, or any other religion:

Some years ago, numbers of AAs formed themselves into “retreat groups” having a religious purpose. At first they wanted to call themselves AA groups of various descriptions. But they soon realized this could not be done because their groups had a dual purpose: both AA and religion”. (Bill W. AA Grapevine February 1958; Language
of the Heart page 222).

Speaking for Dr. Bob and myself I would like to say that there has never been the slightest intent, on his part or mine, of trying to found a new religious denomination. Dr. Bob held certain religious convictions, and so do I. This is, of course, the personal privilege of every A.A. member. Nothing however, could be so unfortunate for A.A.’s future as an attempt to incorporate any of our personal theological views into A.A. teaching, practice or tradition.” (Bill W. AA Comes of Age page 232)

Beyond a Higher Power, as each of us may vision him, A.A. must never, as a society, enter the field of dogma or theology….. Lest we kill our usefulness by being bogged down in theological contention” (Bill W. Letter 1954, As Bill sees It page 116)

This was the great contribution of our atheists and agnostics. They had widened our gateway so that all who suffer might pass through, regardless of their belief or lack of belief.” (Bill W. A.A. Comes of Age page 167)

The atheist may stand up in an A.A. meeting denying God, yet reporting how he has been helped in other ways”….. we make no religious requirement of anyone…..In this atmosphere the orthodox, unorthodox, and the unbeliever mix happily and usefully together” (Bill W. “Pass it On page 172-173)

We wonder if the motivation behind the Toronto atheist group’s actions is out of a sense of insecurity arising from the influence of Traditions 4, 6 and 12 violations; the missionaries of the dishonest rendering of AA’s history by fundamentalist Christian authors emanating from the USA; Dick B. Joe McQ and Wally P.

Extracts from “By the Power Of God, A Guide to Early A.A. Groups & forming similar Groups Today” by Dick B:

Of course the A.A. of yesteryear is truly gone forever. There is no Dr. Bob – physician, Bible student, ‘Prince of Twelve-Steppers,’ ambassador for Christ. There is no loving Anne Smith,- ‘Mother of A.A.’ ‘Founder’ nurse, evangelist, employment agent, and dispenser of ‘spiritual pablum’[sic] … …There is no quiet time…. where the Bible is studied,…prayer is made to God……. “(page xiii)

There is a Good Big Book/Bible study group in California……There is also a ‘Safe to Talk about Jesus meeting’…….There is a Big Book/Bible study meeting in Florida. There are spiritual retreats for AAs and their families in at least seven locations in the United States and one in England.” (Page xiii)

So also ‘Absolute purity.’…. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out…. (Page 42)

And – ‘Absolute unselfishness’….So likewise who ever he be of you that forsaketh not all….” (Page 42)

And ‘Absolute Love’ A new commandment that I give unto you that ye love one another …” (Page 42)

Carrying the Message…As part of AAs Twelfe [sic] Step…And he[Jesus] said unto them….”(Page 189)

Possible Approaches in Meetings 1. Listening to the readings of scripture. Perhaps segments of the Oxford Group book, How to read the Bible [Roger Hicks, How to read the Bible (London: Moral re- Armament, 1940)]” (Page 215)

Alcoholism can be cured. Today’s people have just changed the language to satisfy the unbelievers” (page 233)

Dick B’s Alcoholics Anonymous History website: http://www.dickb.com/index.html

Extracts from “Back to Basics Alcoholics Anonymous Beginners meetings” by Wally P:

In order for the process to work, newcomers need to be matched up with A.A. members who are willing to guide them through the four one hour sessions……..Newcomers do not attend beginners’ meetings alone, they are accompanied by their sponsors/sharing partners…..

For the Newcomer: 1.Your primary obligation is to attend all four sessions…. 2. We will read the appropriate parts of the ‘Big Book’ to you…. (Page 38)

It is time to assign sponsors or sharing partners to those who need them. Will the newcomers please stand. These are the people who are about to take the Twelve Steps” (Page 39)

Next the author instructs us to check what we have put on paper. Here the sponsor or sharing partner can be very helpful: Check…When in doubt and when it is important, what does another person who is working two way prayer think about this thought or action? .... Talk over together what you have written…Tell each other what guidance has come. This is the secret of unity….Then the author explains, to what many of us, is the most difficult part of all …Obey... Carry out the thoughts that have come. You will only be sure of guidance as you go through with it… [How to listen to God, p3]” (page 120)

It is time to make a commitment to working with others…please stand. This is the Twelfe [sic] Step question ‘Will you carry the message to other alcoholics?’ please answer, one at a time, ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ After you have answered, please be seated. [Have each newcomer answer the question]” (page 146)

The following are some early A.A. definitions of God and prayer, by what some of today’s Back to Basics, “original A.A”., “On your knees” missionaries might call the “Original AA members” or “The first One Hundred”, “Big Book Authors,” “founders”:

Most of us in Akron didn’t like all this praying…….We’d had enough of it in the Oxford Group. I still don’t like praying in A.A. I don’t like the Serenity Prayer. New York brought it in, and we resented it. We thought they were bringing back the Oxford Group” (1942, Oscar W. Early Akron A.A. group member) (Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers, page 271)

1937: “And their concept of a Higher Power was different from that of the groupers, who were not prepared to accept light bulbs and Third Avenue buses as examples of “God as I understand Him .………… This, too, was an attitude that represented a fundamental difference between the A.A.s and the Oxford Groupers. A.A.s were more and more inclined to allow newer members to arrive at a concept of a Higher Power in their own time and manner.” (Pass It On, page 161)

Try to find your own God – As you understand Him.” (Quote of Dr. Bob) ( Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers, page 281)

1940: “ At his time – January – 1940 he wasn’t making you get out of bed to pray on your knees, to pray with you, I’m not sure that would have worked too well with me.” A recollection of Dr. Bob by John S. (Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers, page 276)

1941:”Any concept of the Higher Power is acceptable. A sceptic or an agnostic may choose to think of his inner self, the miracle of growth, a tree, man’s wonderment at the physical universe, the structure of an atom, or mere mathematical infinity. Whatever form is visualized, the neophyte is taught that he must rely on it, in his own way, to pray to the power for strength.” (Jack Alexander article about AA , page 19)”

Comment: Toronto AA is an example of a pro-active service structure rather than a moribund one; this is what is meant by “leadership”. Here also is illustrated the necessity of a “canonical” literature within AA (ie. conference approved) which establishes the foundation both for our programme of recovery and the constitution of our society. Without these we are simply directionless and clueless – or as it might be put - just another bunch of drunks! Similarly the formation of “dual purpose” groups (of whatever denomination or type) by definition creates an “outside affiliation” and therefore (under Tradition 3) excludes these from further participation within the AA service structure (which will necessarily entail de-listing of the group and removal of its members (qua “group” membership) from service structure participation (and where necessary appropriate notification to outside agencies to that effect under Warranty Five, Concept 12) etc – but which does not affect in any way the right of each individual to be a member of AA as such ie. the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking).

Finally – and very very briefly:

Dick B – a revisionist (and flawed) perspective of AA history with a Christian agenda.

Wally B – yet another version of doing the programme by “rote”. No thinking required here!

'Nuff said

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Sunday, 29 January 2012

A Minority report (continued)(3)


A.A. is dealing with a new phenomenon, for which most are unprepared. It presents an extremely complex debate and it is a toxic cocktail of the following ingredients: Global internet communication; the outside influence of a very narrow minded, dishonest, fundamentalist Christian rendering of A.A.’s program and history; a generation of “elder statesmen” who have no experience of dealing with a serious problem in A.A; who also lack knowledge of A.A. history and the ability to apply Traditions and Concepts; and the majority of whom appear to see no threat in placing liberty above that of our common welfare.

This cocktail has produced not so much cult groups, but a collection of cult groups of various descriptions, which together amount to a neo-Oxford Group fundamentalist movement. These groups have international connections with figureheads as leaders: Joys of Recovery, (Detroit USA – London UK, David C.), Primary Purpose group of AA (Dallas), (global affiliation, Cliff B. Myers R., Chris R.), Back to Basics, (Global affiliation, Wally P.), Road to Recovery, Plymouth UK- Pacific Group USA (Wayne P- Clancy I).

The new dynamics to AA presented by outside published literature and global internet communication may have exposed a weakness in our service structure to which AA has yet to adapt. The speed and reach of electronic communication today means that the behaviour of one individual AA group, or a minority, can now have an enormous negative and permanent impact on the whole A.A. public relations. Moreover, this speed and reach of communication can give power driving figureheads a platform to influence AA, not only in their own locality, but internationally. With the reach and permanence of worldwide web, it is questionable whether the resultant damage to A.A. public relations and loss of public confidence caused by these groups is sustainable for the fellowship as a whole, if this is permitted to continue.

For example, The Joys of Recovery group (Detroit – London, David C.):
Extracts from the “Big Book Recovery” website hosted by a David C:

Counsellors, Psychiatrists http://bigbookrecovery.com/now_that.html#solid_alcohol
The general approach for the majority of cases is for us to discontinue seeing psychiatrists and counselors [sic] if you are seeing them for treatment of the symptoms of alcoholism eg [sic] alcoholic depression… … Also there are likely to be contradictions between the two courses of treatment. We chose between the two. If we chose to do the AA programme, we stopped seeing the counsellor/psychiatrist until we had done the first nine steps.......”

Alcohol In Solid Form http://bigbookrecovery.com/now_that.html#solid_alcohol
........Prescribed mood-altering drugs? Drugs that are mood altering (eg [sic] "antidepressants") are often prescribed for the symptoms of the alcoholism. This is true even when alcoholism is not named by the doctor as the condition for which he or she is prescribing the drugs; for example, many of us are diagnosed as having a variety different sorts of psychoses and types of depression, which turn out to be the symptoms of alcoholism … ... If they are prescribed for the symptoms of alcoholism, then they are to be considered as alcohol in solid form: we must be willing to come off these ‘chemical mood-changers’ … …We ask the doctor: ‘Would it be alright if I came off the drugs if I go to lots of AA meetings?’… … ... It is very important that if the programme is to be a substitute for these drugs then we really must follow all the suggestions of the programme.”

Sexual conduct http://bigbookrecovery.com/step_four.html#how_to
........Later on, as part of Step 5, we give an account of our secret thoughts to our sponsors. Many revealed things to our sponsors that we had never told anyone before. (This is applicable also to all our darkest thoughts, not just those of a sexual nature”)

Trust Our Sponsors http://bigbookrecovery.com/now_that.html#solid_alcohol
So it will be very difficult for us to trust in the programme and the Higher Power unless we can trust our sponsors first...”

But I’m doing the Programme and I’m still feeling down
http://bigbookrecovery.com/step_twelve.html#all_affairs
If you think you’re doing the programme and not feeling good, then we have good news for you. There is every chance that you’re wrong — you’re not doing the programme. The answer is to find out what it is you are doing that you shouldn’t; or what it is you are not doing that you should.”

Victims of the abusive sponsorship in London and Detroit share their experience with each other on an internet forum:

I was reflecting on when I first was recruited in to joys and I was thinking about how uncomfortable I felt. ………….I remember crying to my sponsor about the pain I was having and explain to her that I never felt my body freak out so much not even when I was in to partying and taking drugs as I did when I came in to joys and she was just starting to yell at me. I remember the first time she really screamed at me when I called to check in I was in my standing in my kitchen and I just recently dumped my ex boyfriend and he just moved out I felt I was moving forward in my life on to a healthy and higher road and then my sponsor screamed at me and I just felt like this behavior [sic] feels way more unhealthy then the what the boyfriend I just dumped did. I felt like she was just waiting for him to leave so I would be alone and she could yell at me and start the abusive and control cycle. I studied the cycle of abuse wheel in high-school and I think that describes perfectly my relationship with my joys sponsor there were definably honeymoon periods and tension building periods and then the terrible acting out phase. I remember I always felt extremely uncomfortable art [sic] the 4 joys meetings I attended weekly. Being on the outside now I can see that a lot of the things that I struggled with such as panic attacks were due to being in joys I don’t have those anymore. I have also realized why I was attracted so much to joys and that it did meet many of my unmet needs such as belonging friendship caring involvement and many many [sic] more. Now that I am out of the group I have to work harder to try and meet these needs and when I don’t I find myself missing joys.” (aacultwatch forum; subject entitled “Gut feelings”)

Another gradual change in their cult environment involved the persistent push for a greater commitment. It always had to be more, and soon the members felt overwhelmed and wondered if they could ever make it. Could they ever be pure enough? Could they ever reach enlightenment? Their leaders were the only proof that these standards were achievable. For me in joys was will I ever get done with 9 and when I get done with step 9 I will be happy. I have sence [sic] learned that being done with nine is really about accepting the cult belife [sic] system and passing it on. I felt even more inner torment when I was done 9 then I did befor.[sic] They created this false impression that once I got done step 9 life would be grand which was quite the oppiset,[sic] but it did apper [sic] that way on the outside. Cult leaders used various techniques to tighten their hold on the group. One of the more effective was scapegoating [sic]. One member would be publicly humiliated in front of the group. This created dread among the cultists because they never knew when it would be their turn and never wanted to be used as a negative example I have been the scapegoat at joys they tear you up in there shares. I have also played the role of tearing others up in there shares and trying to push them in a relapse when they wouldn’t accept the group”.
(aacultwatch forum; subject entitled “Elite club”) http://forums.delphiforums.com/aacultwatch/messages/?start=Start+Reading+%3E%3E

A.A. Grapevine articles by professional alcoholism councillors:

A Plea for Non-interference (AA Grapevine May 1990, Vol.46 no.12).

I have a high regard and respect for AA's Twelve Step program and have witnessed countless success stories….. I am also aware of unnecessary human pain and suffering among recovering members…… Often I have heard AA members who think they know best for all alcoholics and perceive that if you just ‘work the program’ everything will be fine. That is not always the case. There are members in your program who have experienced traumatic, life threatening events and who need professional help and, sometimes, medication……… On several occasions I have had clients who were extremely suicidal and had sought professional help. Recently, two clients threatened suicide, and because AA members thought they knew more than the medical and psychological professions, the individuals almost died… …yet AA members stepped in and convinced my clients to discontinue use of the medication.

……… Members often advise vulnerable, emotionally confused people not to seek medical and mental health assistance, and to take no drugs………..The two suicidal individuals of whom I speak had been sexually abused as children by three or more members of their families and had experienced other abuses as well. Both were emotionally and psychologically fragile………..I suggest that each AA member read in the Big Book where it addresses the issues of obtaining outside professional help when it is necessary…...... I do not like to be placed in a position where people want to die and it's up to me to try and protect them from self-harm. I am the person in the trenches, passionately dedicated to saving lives and helping all people recover not only from alcoholism but other life threatening problems. Please stop telling other recovering AA members not to consult physicians and psychotherapists. Please stop telling members that they are ‘breaking sobriety’ by taking needed medication. Please stop enabling members to attempt suicide.
(Extracts of an article by P…B…, alcoholism councillor, Colorado)

Dear Grapevine, Playing Doctor” (AA grapevine January 2010)

As a psychologist in addictions, with 23 years of recovery in AA, I would like to express concern about the letter titled ‘Misdiagnosis’ (Dear Grapevine, September 2009). While it is true that many people in mental health have inadequate addictions training, it is also true that many people with addictions have other mental health issues. I have not seen the sign, ‘I have one disease--alcoholism--and if I take care of that one disease, everything will be okay,’ at any meeting, nor is this sentiment reflected in any AA literature. Many people have co-occurring substance/alcohol and psychiatric disorders that interact with each other. Untreated bipolar disorder is not conducive to ongoing sobriety, for example. Neither is active psychosis. The list goes on. Dr. Bob and Bill W. emphasized respect and cooperation with the mental health professional community. We emphasize not playing God in AA; let's remember not to play doctor, too. Anonymous””

Comment: A fairly hard hitting analysis of where WE have failed (individually and collectively) to be both accountable and responsible for the welfare of those who come to us for assistance. It is worth noting here that these problems have not been imported into AA from outside ie. via treatment centres etc but have emerged from within our own society. Moreover we have already been explicitly warned of the personality type which underlies these dogma driven and essentially dishonest approaches. In this instance we refer you to the basic text: “Alcoholics Anonymous”, Chapter Five: How it Works pp. 60-62 (beginning with: “The first requirement is that we be convinced that any life...” and ending with: “We had to have God's help”.). From this it can be seen that these essentially narcissistic personalities seek to impose their perspective (largely false and mostly contrived) on others either by manipulation or by direct coercion. Their strategies are various ranging from: a presentation of an alternative AA programme citing Oxford Group (a fundamentalist Christian movement) influences together with references to a preliminary draft of the Big Book (that presented a much more dogmatic approach - and which was subsequently rejected by the early members as unworkable); a largely apocryphal (and predominantly anecdotal) presentation of AA recovery rates (ranging from 75% to 97%) that (it is alleged) was the norm in the 'Akron version' of the recovery method, this delivered via an authoritarian 'sponsorship' system (established supposedly by Clarence Snyder – an early AA member who moreover did not view with any great favour the adoption of AA's Traditions). As already indicated the internet now provides the means for an easy dissemination of this reformulation of both AA history and methodology. We have acquired a whole swathe of largely self-appointed 'experts' on recovery who use this medium for the proliferation of their highly questionable 'philosophies'. So for example David C (Joys of Recovery etc) believes himself qualified to pronounce on matters relating to medical diagnosis, counselling, psychiatric conditions etc. To the best of our knowledge he has neither formal training in these disciplines nor even direct experience (and nor for that matter did his sponsor David B)(see Dual Recovery Anonymous (Medications and Recovery) for more on the consequences of such advice). His approach most clearly exemplifies the role of sponsor as the new “Higher Power” in AA. Indeed far from “quit[ting] playing God” this type exercises a degree of control over their charges' lives which would be the envy of any Stalinist regime with no sphere of activity being exempt from their direction (and we do mean here 'direction' and not 'suggestion); dress code, relationships, work, finances, sexual activity, beliefs, attitudes, values etc all fall within the purview of this almost God-like personage.(see here: an example of sexual voyeurism included as part of the cult's version of a moral inventory). For their part the compliance of their 'victims' is ensured through a mixture of bribes (eg. the so-called twelve promises) together with the ultimate and extremely potent sanction (ie. 'if you fail to take direction you'll drink again!') and so on. The Primary Purpose/Back to Basics gang, on the other hand, tend to favour a misrepresentation of AA recovery rates to lend any credence to their own version of recovery claiming that the alleged decline can be attributed to a progressive “watering down” of its original presentation. In connection with this the essay by Tom P (later amended by his son Tom P Jnr) “Gresham's Law and Alcoholics Anonymous” is frequently cited as supporting evidence together with various questionable statistics (generally unsupported themselves by any hard evidence or derived from samples so small that they hardly represent a sound basis for any argument), both of which have been challenged by AA members (see here and here). The Back to Basics movement make various claims about the numbers of people who have been through their course and their success (unspecified). However they seem unable to supply the requisite data and moreover seem ambivalent about their relationship with AA ie. are they independent of AA or are their groups listed in our Where to Finds? The Primary Purpose grouping again place much emphasis on the 'watering down angle' (tied in with a commercial operation - a nice little sideline involving bookbinding). Cliff B, Myers R, Chris R seem to be most active in promoting their various study groups, workshops, speaker tours together with all the usual spin offs (study guides, CDs etc – and not forgetting of course those rather expensive but oh-so-desirable custom bound copies of the Big Book care of Myers R and Chris R). The Road to Recovery (otherwise known as “Joys”, “Visions” or more colloquially amongst AA members as the “Taliban”, “Step Nazis” etc) derives from the movement founded by David B (and continued by David C) back in the late seventies/early eighties. David B (the originator of the “Misery is Optional” slogan, this itself a misrepresentation of AA literature) placed a great deal of emphasis on the role of sponsorship elevating it to its current perverse pre-eminence within the cult hierarchy. Interestingly David B omitted to practice what he preached failing apparently to avail himself of this allegedly indispensable adjunct to recovery (it was discovered subsequently that his so-called sponsor was yet another figment of his extremely fertile imagination!). A liar and a fraud (and with voyeuristic tendencies) he was nevertheless most convincing and managed to build up a small coterie (based mostly in Chelsea and its environs) but which subsequently dispersed to other parts of the country including - and most notably - Plymouth. Here it has flourished (to such an extent that the local intergroup is essentially run by this single group) and has formed links with the Pacific Group in the US. With regard to the latter this has been headed up for some years by Clancy I. The same pattern emerges as always with these essentially incestuous cliques, and from which devolve the usual abuses associated with such groupings, this culminating in probably the worst exemplar to date: the Midtown groups in Washington DC. (Incidentally - and perhaps not totally surprisingly – the ex-ring leader of this group Mike Q(uinones)(now deceased) was a sponsee of Clancy I as is Wayne P of the Road to Recovery (Plymouth). Now it would be unreasonable to blame the sponsor for the misdeeds of their sponsees but one does have to ask what kind of “guidance” was (is) being offered in these cases; let's hope it's not “direction” and, moreover, doesn't involve 'meds'; Clancy is an exponent of the anti-prescribed medication perspective!). Finally we come to Joe (deceased) and Charlie, a duet of AA members who for some years now have been “carrying the AA message” (although which one we're not quite sure!) to all and sundry. In a virtually non-stop tour their workshops, tapes, CDs etc have been disseminated throughout AA (mostly in the US but with regular forays into Great Britain - usually via the Bristol Reunion – yet another questionable collective!). The material is mostly innocuous though heavily laden with Christian referencing and primarily suitable for those AA members who prefer their programme pre-packaged and 'microwaveable'. The audience at least will come away from these events feeling satisfied in the same way one does after consuming a Chinese takeaway. The warm glow of satiation lasts just long enough to give the illusion of a filling meal but then the hunger returns too soon afterwards. Still one can always top up with another CD from some other expert with yet another version of the recovery programme! Perhaps this one will include Chapter 7 – Joe and Charlie for some reason seem to have missed that bit out in their own unique rendition? Or perhaps it's because the Big Book's Step 12 doesn't quite coincide with theirs).

More anon

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)