The new aacultwatch forum – last reminder

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The dismantling of the old aacultwatch forum will begin today. Some posts have already been transferred by their authors to the new forum. If you wish to save any of the information on the old site we recommend you do so promptly

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

The new aacultwatch forum – a reminder

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As indicated we will begin dismantling the old forum on the 28^th Feb. Some posts have already been transferred to the new (relatively ad free) forum. If you wish to save any of your posts now is the time to do so.

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Welcome to the new aacultwatch forum

AA Conference Questions 2014 Committee 6 Question 2

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Have fun!

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Update - new aacultwatch forum

aacultwatchforum.wordpress.com

We're trying to make this forum as accessible and as easy to use as possible. If you want to post a new topic please just email us here with the topic title and content and we will post it (subject to approval) on the forum. Alternatively if you wish to comment on an existing topic simply click on the “Reply” link in the top right hand corner of the post, fill in a user name and an email address and type your comment.

The site is still in the construction stage. Feedback on improving any of its features would be most welcome.

aacultwatch forum …... anew!

We're pleased to announce we've found (we think) a new location for the aacultwatch forum. The old one is still running and will continue to do so until the end of February as we make the transition after which time the posts there will be deleted and the account closed. Posters to the forum are advised therefore to make copies of any information they wish to save.

Our reason for taking this action is the introduction of increasingly intrusive advertising (over which we have no control) on the original site. This took the form of inserted links leading to commercial products having absolutely no relationship to the content of the forum. We took up the matter with Delphi Forums in an attempt to resolve the situation. Unfortunately they were unable to provide a workable solution. There appears to be no such problem with the new site. We shall be tinkering with this over the next few days so bear with us as we figure it all out. The format of the forum will be slightly different since it is based on a WordPress blogging template. However it does seem that it can be tailored to function effectively for that purpose. We'll keep you updated.

In the meantime thank you for your forbearance

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Change of aacultwatch forum location

We shall be closing down the current forum hosted at Delphi Forums and reopening in another location (soon to be announced). Members who have posted on the existing forum are advised to take copies of any posts they wish to retain before the end of February. At this time we will be deleting all posts and closing the account. In the meantime no new posts will be accepted for publication.

We're sorry for any inconvenience this may cause but we are obliged to make the move due to an increasingly intrusive (and inappropriate) advertising policy on the part of the former host. Hopefully this problem will not occur on the new site,

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

aacultwatch forum daily reflections

Extracts from our forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/aacultwatch under thread: “advice on how to report a cult meeting ”

“Hi ….....

Thanks for voicing your concern. I admire you for doing it, well done. I hope you carry on. I have been doing it since 2009. I think more people are beginning to do it a bit more now, but I think it will still take some time to swing things around so that vulnerable newcomers are protected from these BBS (Big Book Study or if you prefer Big Bullsh-t Study) controllers. It’s a pity there aren’t more in AA like you; especially among the ape guru oldtimers (Three wise monkeys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_monkeys). According to this Wikipedia article, a fourth ape guru oldtimer is sometimes depicted folding his arms. They'll throw a few bananas as soon as there’s action requiring a bit of responsibility while chanting the AA slogan “Live and Let Live!” When they’ve got no bananas, they’ll scramble to hide behind the yellow card:

“Who you See Here,

What You Here Hear,

When You Leave Here,

Let it Stay Here”

– Nothing to do with me, or him, or her, so why don’t you stop interrupting our chimp’s tea party, pop a plum in your mouth, smile serenely and keep it shut like us? This attitude cannot be found in the Steps, Traditions or Concepts, which all call for social responsibility.

I can only suggest you email aacultwatch and ask them to flag the group as a cult group. If you have any questions or want any info please feel free to ask, I’ll do what I can to find any info you may want. I think you'll find a fair bit on this forum and the aacultwatch blog. The long and the short of it, I think, is that AA history and sponsorship has been perverted by outside publications by a variety of individuals who have combined their recovery with their ambitions for power and money. This has created a cultish “Tough Love” controlling type of sponsorship, originating mainly from USA treatment centre programmes derived from the Synanon cult and the Little Rock Group. These have also been combined with teachings of a dictator who has been elevated to the status of the “prophet” Clarence S. and self- appointed fundamentalist Christian historians [viz Dick B] who have distorted AA history to make it look like the pioneering days with the Oxford Group were successful, when they weren’t. Hence the USA bible study cult phenomena has also become a Big Book Study cult phenomena. I think it is a dangerous cult which has damaged AA public relations and has perhaps turned away several hundred thousand newcomers who have walked into this abusive sponsorship style which has been increasingly pervading AA since the 1970’s. It is unfortunate that AA history has been so cleverly twisted by cult literature that its proponents believe that the AA program has now been watered down, when in fact Big Book Study and Big Book Sponsorship is itself an outside AA published watered down program with a treatment centre program called ‘Recovery Dynamics’ authored by an alcoholic called Joe McQ.

Incidentally, I noticed a version of the yellow card pictured on the Wikipedia “Three Wise Monkeys” article, a WWII poster directed at participants in the Manhattan Project; the Manhattan Project created the first Atomic Bombs:

What You See Here.

What You Do Here

What You Hear Here

When You Leave Here

Let It Stay Here

Perhaps that’s where the original idea for the yellow card and big book study came from, the brain of a mad alcoholic nuclear physicist. One never knows.”

(our edits)

 

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Bexleyheath Road to Recovery - no more, no more, know more??

We were sent the following by a member:

"Just thought I'd point out that the Monday Bexleyheath Road to Recovery meeting has closed down ...... if you have a look in the back of March 2010's Share magazine this should confirm it."

We haven't got a copy of the relevant Share to hand but there's no mention of the meeting in the online AA Where to Find. It's always worth bearing in mind that when one of their little hoedowns (ie. a fiddle tune - geddit!!) closes another one usually springs up somewhere in the vicinity - just a little rebranding and Bob's your uncle!!!

.... which reminds us, and just to let you know - it's only 55 days (or 0 years 1 months 24 days) before Bob D (sponsored by the Purley Brigade) will give us (for a modest fee) the benefit of his thoughts on "accessing the power, spiritual principles in relationships, our primary purpose as the [sic] the way to freedom, how to survive the battle between ego and spirit, making amends and the mending of our separation". Well stone the crows! That's got to be worth a few Bob - geddit!! ... No? OK we give up!!

And finally the discussion's hotting up (well warming up a bit....) on the aacultwatch forum. Click here and join the debate

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The Fellas

Sponsorship - is it necessary?

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http://forums.delphiforums.com/aacultwatch