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Friday, 19 September 2014

And finally …... Conference questions (2014) – almost!


55. A proposed minority report for consideration.

Terms of Reference No. 7 The questioner has been referred to document "How to submit a topic or question for Conference".”

Comment: Or as the Terms of Reference should read: how the AA conference avoids confronting an issue when it's staring them directly in the face! Here's the report in question: Minority Report 2013

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS We look forward to next year's crop of discarded questions!

Sunday, 14 September 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


53. Safeguarding Issues for Alcoholics Anonymous
The current climate of anxiety about the vulnerability of children and adults with special needs has led to a strong emphasis on “Safeguarding Children and Vulnerable Adults”. (1)
In Alcoholics Anonymous we might at first sight dismiss any of the issues emerging from this as none of our business and as something which will not apply to the Fellowship: we are after all protected by the Traditions which give us clear boundaries from the Agencies which have to take Safeguarding considerations into account
(i.e. Health, Education etc.) (2)
Increasingly, however, as many in Service roles will know, we are being asked if we have had “CRB Checks” and do we have a “policy” on safeguarding? This can only continue as more and more agencies come under scrutiny: the Catholic Church for example now has to deal with a failure to take account with its safeguarding failures at an earlier stage.
We could say:
1. We are not an “agency/organisation” for children. Anyone who approaches AA is an adult. Children are not legally entitled to drink until they are 18.
2. On any visits to school or contact with children, it is the responsibility of the school/agency we are working with to ensure they follow their own safeguarding guidelines. Usually they will ensure no contact between members of the Fellowship and children without a member of staff being present at all times. Name badges (Visitor ID) to be worn at all times etc.
3. On 12th Step calls to adults we will ensure that more than one member of the Fellowship is present and 12th stepping is done by the same sex as the person visited. Children under 18 can only be seen with parents present.
The above are common sense approaches which I am sure will be immediately clear to AA members but do we always follow them?
The answer is probably not and sooner or later we may be faced with an allegation or complaint of abuse or failure in a duty of care at some level.
My question to AA is: Do we need to consider the recent rise in Safeguarding Measures and decide whether or not AA should have a policy which protects the Fellowship from risk or scandal?
(1) “Every Child Matters” 2003: Children Act 2004 Lord Laming Report: 2006 “Working Together”, “Multi‐Agency Local Safeguarding Children Boards” (LSCBs)
...A duty on all agencies to make arrangements to safeguard and promote the welfare of children.” 2010: “Working Together to Safeguard Children”.
(2) The 12 Traditions “Alcoholics Anonymous” The Big Book
Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions” (1952).


Terms of Reference No. 7 The Traditions and Concepts and information contained within existing literature, such as the Structure and Service Handbooks for Great Britain provide guidance on keeping our fellowship out of public controversy. There is also a guidance issued by the General Service Board in January 2013 which refers to Safeguarding Children and Vulnerable Adults. This guidance will be published in the next edition of AA Service News.”

Comment: Some excellent points here. But as indicated the guidance already largely exists; it just has to be implemented. See below for the relevant legislation (in particular relating to vulnerable adults):




See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Monday, 8 September 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


52. Would Conference discuss and make recommendations: that as a Fellowship, we are failing to continue to raise awareness on an ongoing basis as is required by law, by not paying enough attention or challenging the unacceptable, inappropriate and unlawful sexual conduct by some AA members. 

Awareness of this problem has been brought to the attention of Conference on numerous occasions throughout the years, but the truth is there are still a minority of people who continue to take advantage of the more vulnerable members of the Fellowship in a completely unacceptable manner.
As part of our service to the Fellowship we must protect our members and stay out of public controversy.
Recent events within the UK have highlighted the need for all organisations to be dealing with problems such as these on an ongoing and transparent way.
The discussion document of 2000 was highlighted as a starting point only and in these current times it is essential we are able to demonstrate we have moved from the starting point, and ensure that every member of this Fellowship is reminded, on a regular and ongoing basis, of their individual responsibilities for their personal conduct.

Terms of Reference 6/7 Guidance regarding personal conduct matters can be found in the AA Structure Handbook”

Comment: As indicated above guidance already exists on how to deal with this problem. However such advice is useless unless acted upon. Infractions which constitute criminal conduct should, of course, be promptly reported to the police. The responsibility for the remainder rest with the AA group and its members. Sexual predators are usually easily identifiable. We're not talking about 'boy meets girl' in AA and falls in love/lust etc. We're referring to those who deliberately (and serially) target vulnerable newcomers in order to exploit them. Warning newcomers is usually sufficient to safeguard them. Occasionally, however, it is necessary to inform the perpetrators that their conduct is not acceptable in the group, and they may be excluded so long as they persist. The argument that their recovery is thereby put at risk is no defence. They are merely being held accountable for their own actions. The choice to change is theirs. Newcomers also have a right to recovery. It should be noted here that exploitative conduct is not merely limited to the sexual sphere. There are others forms of abusive behaviour occurring within AA much of which is dealt with on the aacultwatch site (ie. the cult)

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Friday, 29 August 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


50. Would Conference pass a recommendation that the General Service Board of Alcoholics Anonymous, as guardians of the Twelve Traditions, condemn the actions of Intergroups and Regions, which exclude registered AA groups, and individual AA members from exercising their right of participation in our service structure?

Background

A registered AA group in Bournemouth, South West Region, and its members have for 7 years been excluded from participating in their local Intergroups, despite repeated attempts to join. [Let's make it 8 years, and then 9 and then …..]
This AA group, which is to be found on the National list of AA meetings, has donated thousands of pounds directly to GSO, as local Intergroups have consistently declined its donations. [Anybody can get listed nationally. There are no checks carried out. Go on! Try it out! Make up some daft group name and apply for registration!. And of course the local intergroups are going to decline a cult group's donations. The real question is why is GSO accepting them?]
No credible reason has ever been given for these clearly discriminatory actions. Does any service board ever have a credible reason for excluding any group to which it is directly responsible and which it serves?
(Tradition 9) [Untrue. See: Bournemouth Road to Recovery group]
These actions have created disunity locally and diverted attention away from efforts to carry the AA message. [Untrue. The existing intergroup and groups are positively thriving without the participation of the Bournemouth cult group. And no one can claim that the Bournemouth cult group EVER carried the AA message!]
Many members have been left feeling very insecure in the Fellowship that saved or could have saved their lives. Some may have left AA all together. [Many members leave AA and some die because of the cult groups. See Bournemouth Road to Recovery suicide]
Very willing and competent AA members have been denied the right to serve in the local service structure. [Untrue. Bournemouth members can hardly claim to be competent. Competent implies responsible – a quality completely lacking amongst the cult membership]
This right should never be denied any AA member based on membership of a particular group. [It's not a right – it's a privilege]
Failure by the GSB to express any views on this disgraceful state of affairs, may well have been deemed as approval of their actions by local Intergroups. [Untrue. GSO has made its position quite clear. It's ultra vires as far as they're concerned]
In any organisation where discrimination takes place it is the role of the leadership of that organisation to take a clear stand. [GSO has. See above]
Up till now the GSB has shirked on its responsibility and alcoholics could well have died as a result of this inactivity. [Again untrue. See above. We know for a fact that many alcoholics have already died because of the cult's activities. See Medications and Recovery]
Similar actions go on unchallenged in other parts of AA in the UK. [Excellent. Let's hope this trend spreads with the exclusion of further cult groups from participation in the service structure. See our Cult Where to Finds:



o Tradition 1
o Tradition 3
o Tradition 4
o Concepts 4, 9 and 12.

Terms of Reference No. 7 From the supplied background material this is a local issue”

Comment: We can expect no doubt the Bournemouth Road to Recovery cult group's complaints to appear again next year in 'Questions that didn't quite make it'

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Saturday, 9 August 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


40. Do the Yellow Card and Anonymity Tent Card contradict our Primary Purpose? Would it help us carry AA’s message to have a more accurate table‐top reminder of the need to respect personal anonymity?

Intent While it is vital that we respect the anonymity of the people we see in AA meetings, not everything we hear in AA meetings ought to be kept secret, contrary to the Yellow Card (“What you hear here...let it stay here”) and Anonymity Tent Card (“Treat in confidence...what you hear”). These cards may be working against our primary purpose ‐ much of message we should carry to the still‐suffering alcoholic derives from what we hear in meetings. We are not a secret society, but the repeated misrepresentation of Traditions 11 and 12, reinforced at virtually every AA meeting by these cards, may be part of the reason we are sometimes perceived as one, and often act like one. Perhaps it would better serve us to have a more accurately worded, Conference approved table‐top card on the need to respect personal anonymity.

Background: Yellow Card (“Let it stay here”). Anonymity Tent Card. Traditions 5, 11, 12”

Comment: Most members discover pretty early on that the Yellow Card isn't worth the …..well .. the card it's written on! If we had a pound for every time we've heard someone say: “I know it's a yellow card matter but …...” we'd be rolling in it! The fact is that AA members already disregard the card (sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not) whenever they see fit. Similarly most members can distinguish between gossip (usually malicious) and what constitutes useful information to be passed on where appropriate. Moreover there are some things going on in meetings which we believe should be communicated not only to other AA members but to the public at large. Hence the aacultwatch site. Of course guidelines already exist as to what may or may not be appropriate to share in meetings. (See Alcoholics Anonymous, How It Works, p. 58):

Our stories disclose in a general way what we used to be like, what happened, and what we are like now.”

(our emphasis)

If members follow this advice, and avoid the disclosure of personal information which they'd rather not leave the room, then that's the end of the problem. It really is rather naïve to expect AA members to observe standards of confidentiality which usually only apply at a professional level (ie. doctor/patient relationship) where these communications take place in a semi-public setting. The best means of ensuring that that information goes no further is simply not to share it in the first place. It is simply disingenuous to claim on one hand that AA is full of 'sick people trying to get better' and then assume that they will always act according to the strictest standards of probity on the other! What people SHOULD do and what they DO do are not necessarily the same thing! If a member feels the need to communicate on a more private level they can, of course: “search [their] acquaintance for a close-mouthed, understanding friend” (op. cit, p. 74). End of problem!

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Of course with the cult you can forget any kind of confidentiality. It's by no means uncommon for a sponsee's Step Four to be passed up the chain of command for discussion – under the guise of consulting with a whole hierarchy of sponsors. On one occasion a cult member even tried to blackmail an acquaintance of ours by threatening to disclose part of their Step Five. They picked the wrong guy! Our friend told them in no uncertain terms to f*** o**!

Tuesday, 29 July 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


38. Would Conference discuss if AA UK should use or not use the term “self help group” when referring to AA groups?

Background

On the webpage section "Newcomer to AA ‐ Who We Are" it says:
"Through meetings and talking with other alcoholics we are somehow able to stay sober."
This could give the impression AA is a self help group and that talking to others "somehow" keeps us sober. The Big Book has a chapter called "How it Works". It does not mention going to meetings and then "somehow" staying sober. Instead it talks about taking certain steps and through them building a relationship with God that works.
As much as it is understandable that we cannot explain the whole chapter in one sentence at the web, this description on how it works given now on the page, may cause the impression steps have nothing to do with recovery and that we don't know what got us sober in the first place.
In addition the flyer "To Professionals" actually states we were self help groups. As far as I know that is the only piece in AA literature that does so, especially as this information is wrong. Step 2 states exactly that "we came to believe that only a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity" and hereby refers to God, because we cannot help ourselves

Terms of Reference No. 7 Covered by existing literature, for example our Preamble which states AA is a “Fellowship”.”

Comment: Oh dear! Another bloody recovery 'expert'! This is one should really try reading the book sometime maybe starting with the above quoted chapter – Working With Others - and the very beginning of the section no less:

Practical experience shows that nothing will so much insure immunity from drinking as intensive work with other alcoholics. It works when other activities fail. This is our twelfth suggestion: Carry this message to other alcoholics! You can help when no one else can. You can secure their confidence when others fail. Remember they are very ill.”

(our emphasis)

Presumably “carry[ing] the message” might involve at some stage actually talking with the person concerned. Or perhaps the message is somehow transmitted via the esoteric art of telepathy? As for whether meetings are mentioned in the literature – they are....and guess where! …. The Big Book no less! (A Vision For You, p. 161)

Now, this house will hardly accommodate its weekly visitors, for they number sixty or eighty as a rule. Alcoholics are being attracted from far and near. From surrounding towns, families drive long distances to be present. A community thirty miles away has fifteen fellows of Alcoholics Anonymous. Being a large place, we think that some day its Fellowship will number many hundreds.”

Then, in this eastern city, there are informal meetings such as we have described to you, where you may now see scores of members. There are the same fast friendships, there is the same helpfulness to one another as you find among our western friends.” (p. 162)

Note: From the above it can be seen that 'self-help' refers to one 'self' helping another. Not fixing or curing..... but helping! Jeez! If you're going to cite the literature maybe read it first!

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS How do you do a step Five by the way without talking to someone else? Telepathy again perhaps!! Talking with other alcoholics is referred to all the way through the book!

Friday, 25 July 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


36. Given the service commitment required to be a Conference delegate, would Conference consider introducing a specific and separate guideline for Conference delegates, which can better help in the selection and preparation of delegates and their alternates?

Background

In the 2010 Conference report, the response to the inventory question (question 2) from Committee 5 ‐ on improving the method of Conference reporting back to the membership – did not address the issue of improving the existing communication between Conference and the membership as a whole.
Ideally all delegates would readily understand the implications of each question in terms of the Concepts, Traditions and the Conference Charter. As our trusted servants it is vital that all Conference delegates are fully armed with the facts in order to truly serve the Fellowship.
Our literature has plenty to say but it would be useful to have that gathered in one pamphlet or guideline to ensure that delegates are sufficiently informed about what the position entails.
It could also provide guidance about which literature should be read by an aspiring delegate or alternate. For example:
 ∙ GB Service Manual
 ∙ World Service Manual
 ∙ Conference Charter and warrantees
 ∙ 12 Traditions
 ∙ 12 Concepts
 ∙ AA Comes of Age
 ∙ Recent previous Conference reports

Terms of Reference No. 7 Covered in recently approved Structure Handbook for Great Britain, page 93”

Comment: And they wonder why the majority of the fellowship is so disengaged from participation in the service structure above group level! But it always serves the interests of hierarchies to make their operations as obscure and as technical as possible ensuring thereby their machinations remain incomprehensible to the rest of us. In this fashion they remain the 'masters' of their mysterious craft whilst excluding the remainder from any real participation. AA has been and is a profoundly undemocratic organisation with a leadership (?) that is unelected, and which for the most part remains effectively unaccountable (by design). With an ever increasing proliferation of guidelines (ignored largely by those who have no interest in AA principles eg. cult members and groups) and burdened by an expanding and mostly unnecessary 'bureaucracy' (eg. region) - even as the membership is static if not actually decreasing - AA shows every sign of disappearing into a mire of its own making. The production of yet more guidelines does not, we would say, suggest a solution! Maybe fewer!

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Saturday, 19 July 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


35. Would Conference consider what help may be given to those considering the formation of a non –Geographical Intergroup or Region open to all and any AA group within the UK?

Background

A non‐geographical Intergroup or Region would function like existing Intergroups yet its membership would not be contingent on location.
A non‐geographical Intergroup or Region would increase unity in the UK Fellowship by allowing groups which are currently being excluded from their geographical Intergroup, to participate fully in the Three Legacies of the Fellowship they serve.
All AA groups should be able to contribute to our National group Conscience. Tradition 2, Concept 12 Warranties 4 & 6
More and more Intergroups are trying to throw out AA groups that they disagree with.
The GSB/GSO are refusing to recognize new Intergroups unless the Intergroups who banish groups agree with it.
It is clearly wrong for Intergroups to have the final say in AA. Concept 1, Concept 4
AA Guideline on Personal Conduct refers to “Discrimination”
Continental Europe example

Terms of Reference No. 6 Local issue that depends on relevant circumstances”

Comment: This simply represents yet another desperate attempt by the cult groups to gain a foothold within AA! Notwithstanding the various flourishes of Concept This, Warranty That and Legacy The Other intergroups, like the groups they serve, can exercise their 'right' to autonomy albeit with due consideration being given to the impact on other groups and AA as a whole (and see Tradition Four). But the cult groups are very, VERY bad news for AA generally so any intergroup that either refuses access to them or takes steps to 'hoik' them out is doing us all a great favour. Do we really want the first contact a newcomer has with AA to be via a cult telephone responder? Do we want really want them to be 12 stepped by some fanatic robotically miming 'never had a bad day', 'always do what your sponsor says' …. blah di blah di blah? Much better they are welcomed into the fellowship by a man or woman who can actually communicate from their own experience (and not their sponsor's!) - and can string a sentence together that does not involve 'clone speak'. It always strikes us as highly ironic (if not entirely hypocritical) that the cult groups are always more than eager to cite the traditions and concepts when it suits their purpose but when challenged on their own breaches of these guidelines always claim the defence that there are no rules in AA! Quite right. There aren't! But then that cuts both ways doesn't it! Of course the cult groups could always form their own fellowship. How about Nutters Anonymous? Perhaps not entirely attractive but on the other hand completely accurate!

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Saturday, 5 July 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


A personal 'favourite' of ours:

As guardian of the Three Legacies in GB, would Conference consider:
a) What action should be taken regarding external websites and publications which make personal attacks on AA Groups and individual members by name;
b) Giving guidance to the Fellowship on the involvement of AA members in such websites;
c) Giving guidance to Groups and individuals under attack from such websites.

Background

It is known that certain non‐AA websites exist which, sadly, are aimed at spreading malicious gossip or, worse still, directly attacking some AA Groups or individual AA’s.
Whereas we do not wish to do anything which would raise their profile, websites such as these do affect AA as a whole because new prospects might believe that these websites speak for the majority of AA, when in fact they neither represent AA, nor do they speak for AA. Whilst at first it appears we in AA can do little or nothing to stop these websites operating (Tradition 10 – we ought never be drawn into public controversy), we ask Conference’s help on if and when to act, and how to act.
Where such problems continue, the Concepts suggest that Conference may ‘need to take certain protective actions’ or ‘press for the discontinuance of such a practice’. Our question seeks to ask Conference to consider (a) how AA groups ought best to draw such matters to its attention (or the attention of the GSB); (b) how they should act for the best; and (c) when Conference or GSB might find it necessary to intervene.
While Concept 12, Warranty 5 states ‘that no Conference action ever be personally punitive or an incitement to public controversy’, the text of the essay explains that ‘we can inform tradition violators that they are out of order. When they persist we can follow up by using such other resources of persuasion as we may have, and these are often considerable’
This section has much to say on these matters and there is clearly a need for Conference to show leadership in such situations to uphold Tradition 1 and avoid further breaches of Traditions. All are entitled to their opinions about groups and individuals. But when those opinions are publicly voiced, particularly when it is easy to identify those groups and individuals, by people with no identity other than as AA members, then several Traditions are being broken. (1, 3, 4, 10, 11).

Terms of Reference No. 7 Adequately covered by Committee 2, Conference 2011. An internet safety leaflet has been produced and is available to the Fellowship”

Comment: Firstly it would have been helpful to be able to consult the above leaflet on internet safety to see what it actually says. Unfortunately the publication in question (remember – it's a leaflet about internet safety!) is not, as far as we can discern, available on the AA GB website?? We did, however, find the following on the US website: AA Guidelines – Internet. This document, of course, offers guidance only. It is not enforceable.

To continue: Naturally this question (or non-question) is of particular interest to us (being one of those “external websites”). The simple answer to this query (and as the questioner clearly demonstrates he or she already knows) - there is nothing that the AA conference can do about any non-AA website ie. any website not directly controlled by any part of its service structure. This lack of ability to intervene may be attributed (thankfully) to one simple principle: freedom of speech – a freedom recognised under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (p. 71):

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers”

This right is later qualified under Article 29, part 2, of the Declaration:

2. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.”

(our emphases)

Apart from the fact that the AA conference may issue guidelines on the conduct of AA members qua AA members it possesses no other authority. So the questioner is acting in a somewhat disingenuous fashion, we believe, in requesting “help on if and when to act, and how to act” when it's already been acknowledged that neither the conference nor the service structure can do anything at all about “external websites” (other than those recourses offered by the law eg. defamation, breach of copyright etc ie. under part 2 of Article 29. See above). The conference may seek, however, to persuade “tradition violators” to desist but persuasion is as far as it can go, “considerable” or otherwise. But finally Article 19 trumps anything the AA conference may or may not come up with. Of course it is open to the aggrieved parties to challenge our assertions (as they have already sought to do via various media available on the web). After all we can hardly seek to deny a right to others that we so eagerly assert ourselves. But so far the cult seem remarkably inadequate when it comes to defending or even justifying its own activities. But then it is rather difficult to defend the indefensible!


See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Saturday, 28 June 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


32. More and more AA groups are being denied their basic right of membership in local Intergroups. This action also denies them participation in Region and Conference. Can Conference please clarify this situation and give advice so that minorities in AA are no longer banished from our Service/Conference structure and that their conscience is heard?

Background

When these groups have asked the assistance of Conference in the past they have been told “it’s a local issue” and up to the “conscience of those concerned”. When the Conscience of those concerned deal with it, by forming new local Intergroups GSO & GSB refuse to recognize them, thus making it a National issue.

Conference 2012, Committee 5, Question 2 says that by being part of the group conscience and valuing the importance of love, tolerance and the right to participate, we can best strengthen the unity of the Fellowship.

Concept 1 states ‘The final responsibility and the ultimate authority for AA world services should always reside in the collective conscience of our whole Fellowship’. Clearly not being carried under these circumstances.

Concept 4 states ‘Throughout our Conference structure, we ought to maintain at all responsible levels a traditional “Right of Participation,” taking care that each classification or group of our world servants shall be allowed a voting representation in reasonable proportion to the responsibility that each must discharge.’ There is no vote for a member whose home group is denied participation by his Intergroup. What if a group were to say to a member, you are not allowed to vote because you disagree with us.

Terms of Reference No. 6/7 Important topic to the Fellowship as a whole but these issues must be handled and dealt with at a local level”

Comment: This question, of course, refers essentially to the Bournemouth Road to Recovery group who've tried to join pretty well every intergroup in the area, and have been comprehensively knocked back on each occasion. They then attempted to form their own intergroup – Wessex – whose creation, it would seem from the above, didn't meet with universal approbation. As usual the cult groups and their members love to play the 'victim' when they can't get their own way. It's always everyone else's fault if other people won't play ball. “It's not fair”, they cry when AA members, groups and intergroups refuse to put up with their brand of manipulation and outright bullying. But just try and join one of their groups as a member and you'll be expected to jump through all sorts of hoops before you 'make the grade'. You'll have to get a sponsor (from either within the group or one approved by the hierarchy. In some instances you'll even be assigned one – so not much choice there either!). Naturally you'll be expected to do “exactly what your sponsor says” (you won't find any such requirement in any AA literature – especially not in the AA conference approved pamphlet Questions and Answers on Sponsorship!). Failure to comply will lead to sanctions ranging from general disapproval (shunning etc) to summary execution (nah! Just kidding!) …. to 'sacking' with effective expulsion from the group. Attendance at your home group meetings will, of course, be mandatory. Again failure to comply will lead to a serious inventory being taken of you by your new 'Higher Power' the all-powerful, all-knowing SPONSOR. Additionally you will be expected to hit specified 'recruitment targets', ie. ring two newcomers each day (whether they want to be contacted or not) together with an assortment of other 'rules' and 'regulations' (oops sorry - 'suggestions') which will have to be obeyed to the letter. Failure will not be tolerated. Any backsliding will be met with the stern reminder that you had agreed to “go to any lengths”, these being determined by … guess who? Yep! You got it! Your SPONSOR! So is it any wonder that the AA groups in the area won't have anything to do with this bunch of power driven crazies. Would you? We think not!

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Tuesday, 17 June 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


31. Could the ‘View details’ section of ‘Find a Meeting’ on the Alcoholics Anonymous GB website give more information?

Background

There is little information apart from the start time. If more details could be included the newcomer would be better informed when deciding which meeting to attend.

In some areas this would be useful for visitors who may want a meeting with a similar format to their home group.

Tradition 5 ‐ ‘Each group has but one primary purpose – to carry its message to the alcoholic who still suffers’.

Ideally, the website should give as much detail as is required to enable groups to do this.

Information could include the following

What time the doors open, not just the start time
The time the meeting ends
If the group go on to another venue to socialise
The type of meeting e.g. whether it follows the AA principles, the 12 Steps, Big Book, sponsor
Whether it is a discussion, topic, speaker or other format meeting

Terms of Reference No. 7 Referred to Electronic Communications Committee”

Comment: aacultwatch (as usual already ahead of the curve on this one!) includes on our site a number of Cult Where to Finds. We offer this as a service to both AA and cult members (the former lest they run the risk of running into a room full of fanatics, the latter that they wander into an AA meeting by accident and have to endure the authentic AA message and have their programme 'diluted'). These are:


In the groups listed above you will discover a newly designed fellowship, one in which 'personalities' take precedence over 'principles' (ie. the all-seeing, all-knowing, omnipotent SPONSOR ie. the cult 'Higher Power'), where the traditions operate (but sporadically, and only when it's convenient!), where words count for far more than action, where hypocrisy reigns, and whence the truth fled long ago. So if you're looking for a well polished performance this is the place for you. On the other hand if you want to get well in the company of ordinary human beings - who make mistakes and don't mind admitting to them - try an AA meeting. You might be pleasantly surprised!

See here for a full list of other questions that didn't quite get through the 'filter'

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Thursday, 12 June 2014

Conference questions (2014) – almost! (contd)


30. As a fellowship do we know the difference between attraction and promotion?

Background

As PI officer for my local Intergroup I have heard a lot of different opinions on this subject. A while ago now, I heard that an Intergroup had put up Alcoholics Anonymous information on billboards. I thought this may be promotion and asked other members if they thought this was so. Some said it was and some said it wasn't. On another occasion it was suggested to me to put AA information on a big screen that we have in our city centre. So I took this to my Intergroup and asked if it would be okay to do so, and again some were for it and some said it was promotion.

This question is not a criticism to anyone at all. I have looked through the literature and asked experienced members their views on the subject of what is promotion and what is attraction and nobody agrees on what it is. I think this disunity really stunts us from growing as quick as we could and ultimately stops us from being of maximum use to the still suffering alcoholic.

Terms of Reference 6/7 Insufficient background material on this question but a question of a similar nature covering this has been accepted for the agenda”

Comment: Good question! The relevant tradition is:

Eleven—Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.” (short form)

11.—Our relations with the general public should be characterized by personal anonymity. We think A.A. ought to avoid sensational advertising. Our names and pictures as A.A. members ought not be broadcast, filmed, or publicly printed. Our public relations should be guided by the principle of attraction rather than promotion. There is never need to praise ourselves. We feel it better to let our friends recommend us.” (long form)

See also: GUIDELINES for A.A. in Great Britain (PUBLIC INFORMATION Revised April 2005 No. 7)

Dictionary definitions:


From the above it may be seen that the distinction resides in the simple act of conveying accurate, factual information to interested parties (either actively or in response to their request) concerning our activities rather than seeking to persuade them that we are, for example, the best option available for those suffering from some form of alcohol addiction (a claim which is difficult it not impossible to substantiate).

We are all familiar with TV adverts which promote some brand of cereal that imply your life really isn't worth living if you're not shovelling the stuff down your throat morning, noon and night. On the other hand dietary information supplied by a health professional with no vested interest is likely to inspire greater confidence as to the validity (or not) of any such claims.

The 'spirit' of the “attractive” rather than “promotional” approach might best be summarised as follows:

When, therefore, we were approached by those in whom the problem had been solved, there was nothing left for us but to pick up the simple kit of spiritual tools laid at our feet. “ (Alcoholics Anonymous, Ch 2. There is a Solution, p. 25)

There is a considerable difference between pointing out that a service is available and (to use the example above) shoving it down someone's throat whether they want it or not! (cult members kindly note!). In the former case the potential 'customer' decides whether or not they want to proceed - not the 'seller'!

Attractive” information provision should therefore be factually accurate (or as far as possible given the data available), presented in a non-sensationalist, low key, measured fashion whilst retaining a sense of due proportion and perspective. Any tendency towards exaggeration should be avoided, any hint of self-congratulation excluded. Claims as to the efficacy of the AA programme should neither be under- or over-stated. Personal testimony is clearly admissible if not statistically conclusive. No attempt should be made to 'persuade' the potential candidate that they must accept what they are told as 'gospel'. Reasoned discussion not argument should prevail. Finally the newcomer should be made aware that they are not obliged to accept any point of view, defer to any kind of authority or act in any manner with which they are not entirely happy. It is their choice not ours as to whether they adopt our approach. In other words “suggestion” should mean “suggestion” and not 'demand'!

PI Reading

AA Service Handbook of GB (Section 17 on PI)
AA Comes of Age
Twelve Traditions Illustrated
Pamphlet "Speaking at non-AA Meetings"
Pamphlet "How AA Members Co-operate"
Pamphlet "A Message to Professionals"


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Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)