“I
would like to talk to you about the origins of the Vision cult and
its connection with Brompton Oratory and Mother Theresa! David B
[founder Visions cult UK] read a lot of Mother Theresa but seems to have got it all garbled. David C "The
Icon" [similarly connected] proceeded to import
fundamentalist Catholic spiritual discipl[ine] and moral teaching
into AA (Vision) and present it to his sponsees and newcomers as
being "real AA" when of course it isn’t. By the way the
guy called "Derek" who was involved in the North London Intergroup meeting where his meeting was shut down a few
years ago ?? His assertion that he didn’t know that the Step 4
material he was distributing came from a non-AA website is a lie.
…......David C "Icon" [one of the authors of the website] is his sponsor! He would have known
fine [and] well where it [had] come from.”
“I
witnessed many regular members leave too, sometimes in the most
hostile and acrimonious manner. David B. sacked sponsees for the
slightest failure to obey his every whim. Not long before David B
died there was another acrimonious split. The Vision meeting at Eaton
Square was very well attended and the numbers exceeded the limit for
the building fire regulations. Following a group conscience, (which,
through sponsorship, David B controlled of course), it was decided
that once a certain number of attendees had been reached the door
would be closed not allowing any further people to enter. Some people
had a problem with this, notably Tony M, one of David B’s chief
sponsees. At that time, Tony M was openly disagreeing with David B at
the Wednesday night meeting. Other differences developed between the
two. Eventually Tony M and his sponsees and some others, broke away
from Vision and they formed their own group called "Happy
Destiny" which met on Wednesday night in Pimlico.“ [long time
defunct]
Ealing:
“According
to Dennis relationships are only for the production of children in
marriage....so tough if you are too old, don’t want children, gay,
or medically infertile.. David C "Icons "is the author of that one. He
knows all about relationships - he's never had one in recovery.
This
same person has been told by Dennis that the only reason for
relationships is to procreate children within marriage. Any other
kind of relationship is invalid and a distraction from "being
spiritual". There you have it !! I told my friend that
statement was about more about AVOIDANCE of relationships than real
spiritual growth. Dennis got that nonsense from David C of course.
(our edits)
Comment:
Thus the bigots flourish!
The
Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)
PS
Our usual thanks to our correspondents