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Wednesday, 31 October 2012

Introducing.... a radical new concept in recovery!


Diligent members that we are we never fail to be impressed (during the course of our prolonged and detailed internet searches) at the extraordinary lengths that cult members will go to to 'carry the message'…...especially when it involves trying to pull the wool over your eyes and part you from your hard earned cash! Whether it be the Joe and Charlie Road Show (now version 2 … or is it 3 or even more!) complete with work sheets, treatment centres, CDs and homely little epithets, the 'whizz bang' technique extolled by the gloriously named Wally P (he of Back to Basics fame), the Primary Purpose gang (an only slightly less accelerated version of the aforementioned snake oil purveyors), the Visions 'do exactly what your sponsor tells you” faction …... and so on and so forth …... you'll be sure to find something to suit even the most jaded palate….. the variations on this particular theme we believe are virtually endless! But now we think we've hit upon the 'summum bonum' of the whole shebang! This one we think is a knock out.. a guaranteed best seller with simply oodles of money to be made here! So struck are we in fact by the sheer genius of this approach we are currently engaged in intense negotiations with the copyright holder to secure the licensing rights to this particular work of art. You can be quite sure that we're going to get our own piece of the action! Indeed we've had our marketing department working flat out on the concept since we were first introduced to it. The possibilities are literally endless. Never mind CDs, work sheets and all that stuff! We're talking film rights here! Still we mustn't get beyond ourselves. We of course spoke to our sponsor before making any kind of decision. Apart from insisting on his 'cut' he suggested..... SUGGESTED.... that we give the punters (that's YOU) a taster.... just to whet the appetite! But we've decided to go one better than that! Yes indeedy! For a very limited period we shall be putting the complete recovery package on the website (but only briefly!) DON'T MISS OUT!

Voilà! The (strictly) limited pre-release edition may be downloaded here.


[Instructions for use:

Print download (double sided – both sides should line up) and then cut into small rectangles.

When attending an AA meeting go up to the NEWCOMER (with a sort of serious face), introduce yourself and then give them the "AA Instruction Sheet" and inform them that if they follow these instructions to the letter they WILL succeed.

Hand them one of the sheets #1 side up. Then instruct them to turn it over to view #2. Tell them that is ALL they have to do for a while ….usually they will laugh and thank you]

Pass it on!

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Thanks to our correspondent (and hopefully future business partner!)

PPS Is that what they mean by Keep it Simple! ….. Nah! …. Too obvious!

Monday, 29 October 2012

Conference Questions (2012) forum discussion (contd)



Question 2:

Would the Fellowship review and re-affirm what constitutes an AA Group, within the Fellowship in Great Britain with specific reference to Traditions 4 - 6?

Background

Consider the contribution to the carrying of the message, financial and practical implications when deliberating each question.”

Extract:


A.A. groups had their fling at education, and when they began to publicly whoop up the merits of this or that brand, people became confused. Did A.A. fix drunks or was it an educational project? ” (Tradition Six)

Things were fine until some of us AAs publicly disclosed our membership in the educational group. Right away, the public got the idea that this particular brand of alcoholic education and Alcoholics Anonymous were one and the same thing. It took years to change this impression.” (Bill W. AA Grapevine February 1958, The Language of the Heart page 225)


So we are constantly on the alert against the rise within AA of a paid class of practitioners or missionaries.” (Bill W. AA Grapevine May 1946, The Language of the Heart page 27)


And already there have been a few alarming attempts at the public solicitation of money in the name of Alcoholics Anonymous. Few AAs will fail to imagine where such a course could lead us.” (Bill W. AA Grapevine June 1946, The Language of the Heart page 31)

We must never let any immediate advantage, however attractive, blind us to the possibility that we may be creating a disastrous precedent for the future” (Bill W. AA Grapevine June 1946, The Language of the Heart page 31)

Conservative AAs realize that business ventures or solicitations carrying the AA endorsement are truly dangerous to us all. Were this practice to become general, the lid would be off. Promoters, AA and otherwise, would have a field day.” (Bill W. AA Grapevine May 1947, The Language of the Heart page 55)

That we must, at all costs, avoid the professionalization of AA; that simple twelfth step work is never to be paid for; that AAs going into alcohol therapy should never trade on their AA connection; that there is not and never can be, any such thing as an “AA therapist.” (Bill W. AA Grapevine June 1946, The Language of The Heart page 29)


The principle “That we must, at all costs, avoid the professionalization of AA” can be applied to any individual alcoholic’s business title: “teacher,” “Historian,” “Archivist” “Author,” “Missionary,” “Speaker.” “Recovery merchandise manufacturer.” According to Tradition six what constitutes an AA group would not give any actual or implied endorsement to any AA member’s business, “no matter how good”, even if this business was devoted to the same primary purpose of AA. It would not give any actual or implied endorsement to literature, work books, study guides etc; or foundations which publicly solicit funds using the AA name; for this is, in the words of AA’s Co-founder is “truly dangerous to us all.”

According to Tradition, what constitutes an AA group in Great Britain would not encourage a “paid class of practitioners or missionaries.” by paying “expenses” for “speakers” or “missionaries” to travel from the USA; especially bearing in mind Conference Recommendation 2010:

The Committee would like to draw attention to Conference recommendation of 1995 which reads: "that the practice of inviting speakers from overseas and paying their expenses is in breach of Traditions 4 & 12." (Conference Voting: Unanimous)

Nor would it encourage a “paid class of practitioners or missionaries.” by encouraging the business of outside produced “Speaker” recordings. The production of which within AA has its spiritual consequences and human costs too:


“….Some speakers are recorded without their knowledge or permission. For instance, one friend of mine, a gay schoolteacher, was horrified to discover that his AA talk had been recorded and sold without his knowledge. Since part of his story included a description of how his recovery from alcoholism helped him accept his sexual orientation, he was concerned that his professional standing would be jeopardized if the recording wound up in the wrong hands. Of course, the whole situation could have been avoided if the taper simply had asked his permission to record the talk. Another AA member I know, a clergyman, delivered a rather earthy talk at an AA convention. Someone sent the recording to his bishop, landing the clergyman in hot water. Certainly, the tattletale was a large part of the problem here. But if there's one place where we shouldn't have to worry about the repercussions of our sharing, it's an AA meeting. So, what does "anonymous" mean to members during these times of ever-present audio recorders?

………..One time, I walked into an AA convention where I was speaking and was surprised to see the taper set up with dozens of pre-made labels with my full name emblazoned on them. I told him to blot out my last name. He begrudgingly complied. No one on the committee had mentioned that they intended to record and sell my talk. Another time, I was seated on the dais as a banquet speaker during another AA convention. The tapers bustled about, setting up their recording system. Finally, I said, "Is anyone going to ask me if it's all right to record my talk?" They were perplexed by the question. From time to time, I receive a telephone call from a convention program committee member asking me to submit a recording of my talk so they can review it before possibly inviting me to speak at their event. I always decline, politely explaining that I don't audition to speak at Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. Similarly, if we have to agree to be recorded before being invited to tell our AA stories, then Alcoholics Anonymous has lost its way. If I don't want my talk recorded, then that should be the end of it. These days, I often see tapes and CDs displayed on the internet, at AA conventions, and in recovery stores that describe the speakers by category: Big Book Story, Celebrity, History, Old-Timer, Humorous, Great Talk, name of rock group, nom de plume, political position, name of television/movie character, etc. This is a perversion of the spirit of anonymity. Evidently, many audio recording businesses aren't familiar with the last page of the "A.A. Guidelines on Conferences, Conventions and Roundups" (available at www.aa.org), which makes suggestions about recording AA speakers, including, "The strength of our anonymity Traditions is reinforced by speakers who do not use their last names and by taping companies or tapers whose labels and catalogs do not identify speakers by last names, titles, service jobs or descriptions."

Some tapers act as "booking agents" for AA meetings, conventions, round-ups, and conferences. They're business people, and they recommend, as speakers, those whose recordings sell lots of copies: the polished, the sensational, the humorous, and the well-known. Generally, tapers won't recommend speakers who won't allow their talks to be recorded, because it's a bad business decision for them. Sadly, this means that we are not exposed to the full range of speakers in AA. I know many excellent speakers who have been passed over, even though they carry a tremendous message of recovery, unity, and service, because they prefer that their talks not be recorded. I'd like to see AA wean itself from its dependence on tapers. I don't think audio recording should be totally eliminated, but I do think it should receive more oversight from Tradition-minded convention committees and steering committees….”

Unrecorded” AA Grapevine August 2007 A member questions the practice of recording AA speakers. (Extracts) http://www.aagrapevine.org/

 
Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Thursday, 25 October 2012

Frankfurt Young Persons Meeting Friday evening


FRANKFURT FRIDAY 20:00
FRANKFURT - Young Persons Meeting
Bilingual meeting German and English Closed Meeting
Last Friday of the month Open Speaker meeting
Selbshilfe Kontaktstelle, 49 Jahnstrasse, Frankfurt, 60318
Non-smoking

We've received information recently that this group has established links with the Road to Recovery (Visions cult) in Great Britain. It bears all the hallmarks of a cult group: dogmatic, no sharing by newcomers until reaching the 5th step, controlling sponsorship style (even 'militaristic' – apparently the sponsor is now the appointed conduit to God!) etc etc.

Any further information on this group (or indeed other such groups in Continental Europe) would be useful. We're already aware that US based factions such as Primary Purpose (a Joe and Charlie inspired movement) and the Back to Basics gang (Wally P) have infested other parts of Europe so why not the Visions cult!

Cheers


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Tuesday, 23 October 2012

Some reflections ….....


Extracts from our forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/aacultwatch under thread: “aacultwatch forum daily reflections”


It is traditional in Alcoholics Anonymous that we do not make speeches.” – Bill W (Bill W. A.A. Comes of Age page 52)

“Don’t applaud me. Don’t applaud any alcoholic”- Dr. Bob (Dr. Bob and the Good old Timers page 221)

This was the great contribution of our atheists and agnostics. They had widened our gateway so that all who suffer might pass through, regardless of their belief or lack of belief.” - Bill W.
(A.A. Comes of Age page 167)

Of highest importance would be our relations with medicine and with religion. Under no circumstances must we get into competition with either. If we appeared to be a new religious sect, we’d certainly be done for. And if we moved into the medical field, as such, the result would be the same.” – Bill W. 1955

(AA Grapevine June 1955, Language of the Heart page 150)

John S. Describes Dr. Bob:

"At this time - January - 1940 he wasn't making you get out of bed to pray on your knees, to pray with you. I'm not sure that would have worked too well with me" - John S (Dr Bob and the Good Oldtimers page 276)


1939, New York A.A. meetings led by Bill W:

"At this time there were no 90-days requirements. No birthdays – no recognition was made if you sober a week or a year, If you felt you would like to speak in a year or in a month or two weeks they let you get up and speak, and they didn’t throw you out if you were drunk, either. - Ruth Hock; the first Secretary of GSO New York (Pass it on page 219)

1940s Akron Meetings led by Dr. Bob:

“Oldtimers remember early meetings as being pretty much the same as they are now, with a few exceptions. There was no chairperson or secretary to introduce the speaker. Through the mid - 1940’s, it was felt that grand titles and flowery introductions might go to an alcoholic’s head.” (Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers page 220)

“There was no levity in the beginning.’ said Bob E. ‘We all had our sense of humor, but for us, recovery was a life - or - death matter. Nor was there any clapping. At that kind of meeting, applause would have been out of place.” (Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers page 221)

Comment: Compare and contrast these approaches (all derived from AA conference approved literature) with those endorsed by the cult ….... Any similarities? None!

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Sunday, 21 October 2012

Conference Questions (2012) forum discussion (contd)


Committee No. 3

Question 2:

Would the Fellowship review and re-affirm what constitutes an AA Group, within the Fellowship in Great Britain with specific reference to Traditions 4 - 6?

Background

Consider the contribution to the carrying of the message, financial and practical implications when deliberating each question.”

Extract:

Tradition Six

An A.A. group, as such, should never go into business.” (Tradition Six, Long form)

While an A.A. group may cooperate with anyone, such cooperation ought never go so far as affiliation or endorsement, actual or implied. An A.A. group can bind itself to no one.”(Tradition Six, Long form)

If a group’s purpose is also to be a retail outlet for related facilities and outside enterprise, for example: non A.A. published recovery related literature, recovery merchandise, non A.A. organised workshops and conventions, spiritual retreats, etc; then the group gives these outside businesses “endorsement, actual or implied.” This retailing of outside enterprise in an A.A. group is not using AA name “only in connection with straight AA activities.” Whether the business is being done on a separate table or under the table, it cannot call itself an A.A. group. This is a dual purpose.

Considering the financial and practical implications to this question: the sale of non A.A. material by a retail outlet masquerading as an A.A. group, competes directly with official A.A. literature and audio recordings, diverting money away from the A.A. primary purpose into the hands of outside enterprises that are exploiting the fellowship.

There is also the implication for A.A. unity, the dissipation of the A.A. message and damage to AA public relations:

Our literature is a principle means by which A.A. recovery, unity, and service are facilitated” (Concept XI). “Suppose, for instance, that during the last twenty five years, AA had never published any standard literature – no books, no pamphlets. We need little imagination to see that by now our message would be hopelessly garbled. Our relations with medicine and religion would have become a shambles. To alcoholics generally we would today be a joke and the public would have thought us a riddle. Without its literature, AA would certainly have bogged down in a welter of controversy and disunity” (Bill W. “A Message from Bill”, AA Grapevine May 1964; The Language of the Heart page 348)

There’s also the human cost of this outside exploitation:

I am concerned that we are not reaching people who cannot read well or cannot read at all. I am new to the program and making my way through the Steps. I struggle to understand the "Twelve and Twelve," even with a college degree and help from my sponsor and other AAs. Meanwhile, my room-mate, also newly sober and with a grade school education, can't make any sense of her Step workbook and is about to give up. How many people do we lose this way? How many, when asked to read from the Big Book at a meeting, stumble through a few sentences, acutely embarrassed, and never come back? A literature-based program effectively shuts out people who desperately need help but do not have good reading skills…........... We need new ways to reach the still- suffering alcoholic --- ways that do not depend on the written word” (June W. Gaithersburg, Md. “Dear Grapevine, Shut Out” A.A. Grapevine November 2010) http://www.aagrapevine.org/

A.A. does not produce step workbooks, but they have now arrived in the UK, I have recently been given one. It doesn’t surprise me that the newcomer in the USA can't make any sense of hers if it is a copy of the same one that I have been given. I too wonder how many newcomers we’re going to lose in the UK. I think it is fair to say that traditionally the AA message is more a word of mouth programme, one alcoholic talking to another in “the language of the heart”, not literature based. We don’t need the new literature ways, but stick to the A.A.Tradition. What constitutes an A.A. group would not make a requirement for a newcomer to read a work book or the Big Book for that matter, because there is no requirement for AA membership other than a desire to stop drinking; all inclusive to the literate or illiterate. According to Tradition Six, an A.A. group would never give endorsement, actual or implied, to any related facility or outside enterprise such as a step work book.”


Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Friday, 19 October 2012

Our “Thug of the Month”: Richard E


Yep! Yet another addition to our pantheon of dishonour … introducing ….. Richard E …..who will be joining the likes of Harry K, Glynne M, Billy (the Kid) and numerous other 'unsung heroes' of the cult movement in Great Britain. The list goes on .. but not quite 'ad infinitum'.....

We quote:

“Hi chaps just a little report on the dangerous actions of Richard E. He is a member of AA and CA and is part of the fierce control sponsorship movement sweeping many AA and CA groups. A friend of mine visited an AA meeting in the South Harrow area recently and saw a female member crying outside and when he asked what was wrong she stated that Richard E had told her she is not a real alcoholic and is killing people in AA. This meeting has been taken over by Richard and his army of sponsees who are all ordered to introduce themselves as grateful recovered alcoholics. Richard hunts newcomers in AA and proceeds to tell them they will not recover in mainstream AA and demands they attend his CA home-group in Ormond Road Richmond hence the meeting is full of alcoholics who in my opinion are in the wrong fellowship. He also demands they ring him every day at a set time and write and review a gratitude list none of which I can find in the AA book. He was recently arrested and charged with assault for spitting in a female member's face in a Sunday night meeting in Barnes south-west London but fails to mention this when he speaks in meetings ….. only claims to be happy joyous and free at all times. Please keep my name off this as I don’t want conflict when I see him and his gang at meetings. Keep up the good work. God bless.”

And from another correspondent:

Perhaps you have already heard of these meetings, nonetheless for your information...

South Harrow, London 8pm Thursday 13th September. The chair was by Harry K - "That's Harry K......., not Henry Kissinger!" he says. Alcoholics "Anonymous". Travelled in from Margate. From the top down he was wearing a black cowboy hat, black overcoat and what looked like blue slippers. Noticed lots of people in attendance never seen before - my view is they had probably also travelled some distance to this meeting. Relatively few locals in the meeting. Didn't count attendance - though guess at least 45.

Also Harefield, London Friday 7pm. Sponsorship and "Big Book Study" offered there. Smaller meeting.

Keep up the good work. I enjoy reading aacultwatch on a regular basis.

Best wishes”

When we checked with our first contact we received the following information:

Sure. Richard E and Harry K are pals that’s why Harry will have been there. Harry K is actually a heroin addict who cleaned up in AA. He was introduced to CA one year back through Richard and his flock of sponsees so he is now attending CA meetings and has an awful habit of telling everyone else what to do. Also loves to quote his knowledge of the book ….... what page is what etc.. He has also been invited to speak at our CA UK area convention in Hayling Island this November. This has been heavily influenced by Richard. There is plenty of us who can see these people for what they are. We continue to carry the real message of love and tolerance to alcoholic or drug addict who still suffers. God bless fellas.”

Comment: By all accounts these two are just made for each other! Not a lot of people know this (well actually a lot of people know this) but although Harry is something of a self appointed 'authority' on the Big Book he's not so adept when it comes to other people's property. Indeed he seems to have come rather unstuck not that long ago when an employer sacked him for shop lifting from one of their stores! Still to err is human, to forgive divine .. and we're sure that Harry has forgiven himself already!

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)


PS Thanks to our various correspondents... keep up the good work!

Wednesday, 17 October 2012

First the 12 Steps – then the 6 Suggestions – now the 7 Questions....


What next! First we had the 12 Steps …. then the 6 Suggestions (c/o the cult) ...... now the 7 Questions (according to the Wizard of Oz .. the artist formerly known as Clancy I)......


We came across this listing fairly recently (together with a gushing tribute from one of his adherents). The formulation is in itself unremarkable (and we're not going to repeat it here for that reason) simply reflecting a restatement of what is already covered quite adequately in existing AA (conference approved) literature (the Steps, Just for Today card etc). However what is of interest are the accompanying comments.


According to the commentator at least this approach is particularly helpful for “hardcore cases” (?) some of whom it appears have even been “referred” to the aforementioned Wizard! Moreover it has been “discovered that they are very effective when dealing with rock-bottom newcomers and with the high-bottom intellectual types” (are there any other kind?) and even “oldtimers who were struggling through a difficult period” (that seems to cover pretty well everyone then!)


So far so good (if not demonstrating a rather overenthusiastic tendency towards placing people in categories … so much easier than relating to them directly!). The 'fan' then goes on to specify further conditions:


I never give the newcomer the questions without also setting a time for them to complete their writing. Normally, I’ll give them the questions and expect them to be finished with their writing by the next day, and I’ll have them call me so that we can get together and discuss their answers and apply the solution to their problems.”


It is unclear whether this too forms part of the Wizard's method but we suspect so given his reputation. However the apparent contradiction to this accelerated process demonstrates itself clearly at this point especially if one takes into account the concluding comments (and yet more conditions!):


If the newcomer procrastinates and doesn’t meet the deadline for the questions I usually consider that they are not yet serious enough to approach their problem and I move on to help someone else.”


Now of course it could be argued that given the nature of the questions themselves the proposed time schedule is far too optimistic. If in fact the newcomer is serious about their recovery then they would probably require a lot more time to consider fully the implications of the questions, introspect accordingly, and then formulate their responses in a considered and reflective fashion. In light of this an overnight “cramming session” hardly suffices. What seems to be more important, or at least from the perspective outlined above, is that they conform to some rather arbitrarily determined schedule set by the 'examiner' (as these appear to be). Moreover the issue as to whether the newcomer is procrastinating seems to revolve around whether they meet the “deadline” imposed on them or not, and where failure implies instant dismissal. This mechanistic approach should be contrasted with that exemplified in the book “Alcoholics Anonymous” (Chapter 7, Working with Others) where there could not be discovered a greater antithesis. Throughout the text it is again and again emphasised that the “prospect” should not feel under any pressure, and be encouraged rather to take the lead than be treated as if they were some kind of errant school child. Unfortunately for the control freaks in our midst (and we include the above) this approach simply will not do! Whatever formulation you come across whether it be the Joe and Charlie so-called “Big Book Study” (where Chapter 7 is virtually ignored), the 'Dallas Cowboys' (aka Primary Purpose), the Back to Basics gang (see Primary Purpose link), the Visions mob (aka Road to Recovery, Joys of Recovery), all place the emphasis on 'control' by some kind of human authority rather than reliance on a Higher Power (one that is probably NOT human). The agenda is set by the 'controller', the outcome is 'dictated', and failure to 'comply' is punished with a range of sanctions. Finally the 'object' of their 'message' is generally treated thus rather than as a real human being - and disposed of accordingly!


For our part though we think we'll stick with the original method – a couple of alkies just trying to help each other! No deals.. no contract!


Cheers


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Monday, 15 October 2012

Hemel Hempstead (Friday)


A recent email:

Hello.

I am a member of AA from Hemel Hempstead. I was fascinated to stumble across this website as what you describe is exactly what has happened …..at the Quaker Meeting House in Hemel. Even before seeing this website, the group mentality of a faction which has gradually expanded and grown in this meeting has been one which I have been referring to as “a cult.” These people travel everywhere together in the same cars, two have just begun a relationship and moved in with one another, they all aggressively insist that they are “recovered alcoholics” and when questioned on this term become quite unpleasant and have begun rapidly taking on “sponsees” who at a rate of knots (sometimes just a few days even doing half the steps in a matter of hours) who they then send out to immediately take on their own sponsors after only several days of sobriety. It is madness and a recipe for disaster. The meeting no longer feels a safe place to share and unfortunately the secretary of the meeting is chief amongst these people himself only 6 months sober and took on the meeting at around 2 months. They have also brought in to the group undesirable people who I have never before seen at the meeting and are frankly scary- looking men who seem to say nothing but simply watch. It is menacing and unpleasant. …. I no longer have a desire to be at that meeting. I am fortunate enough to have a couple of other good meetings close by but even in those, there is an effort amongst these “cultheads” to spread their tentacles. Hopefully the good guys in AA will prevail! I am only 13 months sober myself and have been fortunate to have been befriended by oldtimers early on. However, it is heartbreaking to see such abuse of the AA message.

Yours,

....”

(our edits)

Our reply:

Thank you for your mail. Sadly your experiences are far from uncommon in some parts of AA. We're interested to note your use of the word "faction” because that precisely describes what is taking place in AA (both here and in the US). The term "recovered" although it appears in the Big Book is indeed flourished by some almost as a badge of superiority and with the so-called "recovered" individual browbeating those who don't quite measure up - hardly in accordance with the principles of AA so clearly outlined in the very text they claim to be so expert in! Chris Raymer is part of the Primary Purpose gang, yet another faction who claim some kind of superior method (see also "Joe and Charlie" in this connection). They are of a view that everyone should be hurried through the programme (regardless of their individual condition or ability) at top speed - the faster the better - and regardless of whether this works or not. Frequently we are contacted by newcomers who are quite bewildered. They say they've got up to Step 8 (or whatever) and then relapsed. They genuinely don't understand why this has happened. They thought they were doing what was suggested but in the mad dash failed to get a proper grasp of Step 1. Similarly the tactic of arriving mob handed at meetings is quite common. Some of these characters are indeed quite intimidating - they are in fact thugs - no more no less. We're happy to hear that you've managed to form contacts with established members of AA with a more traditional and compassionate approach.”

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS In connection with the Primary Purpose/Joe and Charlie gang we've received the following tip off recently:

Hey Fellas,
Anonymous tip from Dallas… The Mother Ship [ie. Primary Purpose group, Dallas] is loosing [sic] members fast … defection by many members taking place …. (even Myers defected) …. I won’t give any more details but allegedly there is an e-mail floating around among group members about some interesting details about why men shouldn’t sponsor women even if they did found the Group ….. ; ) …. Sorry, I don’t have it and won’t ask my source for it.

Good Luck

......”


Mmmmm sounds familiar .. where have we heard all this before? Plymouth Road to Recovery was it? Dunno..... but it'll come back to us eventually.....

Saturday, 13 October 2012

Share Magazine – should it be renamed …... The Plymouth Express?


A member contacted us with regard to a recent issue of Share (spot the misspelling on the webpage!) magazine. In their perusal they had noted the predominance of contributions from the Plymouth area (usually from the local cult group: Plymouth Road to Recovery). This is not the first time that mention has been made of this phenomenon. Indeed Share magazine not infrequently resembles the official publication for that group so infested is it with the 'lack of experience, strength and hope' emanating principally from that source. Article after article from this cult group merely restates their central philosophy: get a sponsor and do what your sponsor says! No need to bother with all that God mumbo jumbo! A human power is the answer …. and make no mistake! However if you finally tire of the bland outpourings from Plymouth and find your 'psychic defences' crumbling under this avalanche of dross you can always take recourse in the ramblings of Happy Dennis (see blog for more). Now Happy Dennis is well known in the Ealing area of London. He is the founder of a series of meetings mostly based at the Centre for Independent Living, Bayham Rd. His sponsor is David “The Icon” C, a professional Roman Catholic and self-proclaimed aesthete based in the US (although formerly from the UK), and himself and ex-sponsee of David B (founder of the Joys of Recovery which itself has produced the Road to Recovery franchise ….. and so the incestuous circle is rendered complete!). But to return to the Happy One.... Dennis it would seem is straying more and more into the realms of total unreality. We thought he had reached his apogee in the Sunday meeting (at the above location) where the participants are exhorted literally to “jump for joy” at the end of the proceedings. But no... various pronouncements have now followed with respect to a number of alcoholism unrelated subjects including sex outside marriage, saunas and women, all of which seem to reflect some aspect of David “The Icon” C's rather extreme brand of Catholicism. Clearly 'fooling around' outside marriage is out of the question but one must wonder how the souls of our more distant ancestors are faring given that Roman Catholicism has only been around for the last couple of thousand years? Are we to take it that these ignorant unfortunates are condemned to do a 'bit of porridge' in purgatory to expunge thereby all traces of sinfulness from their souls or perhaps they are presently languishing in that hellish realm forever abandoned for merely doing what nature clearly intended? However given the present debate (and possible legislation) on same sex “marriage” we are eagerly looking forward not only to some pronouncement on the subject from the Vatican but also as to what David “The Icon” C (in his current manifestation as Dennis) has to say on these vexing questions! Any guesses? But when it comes to saunas it is obvious why such cautions have been issued. It is well known that these are the favoured resorts of those dreadful malefactors – THE HOMOSEXUALS – whose sole ambition in life is to seduce all innocents and lead them down the path of eternal damnation. Finally women …. well what more need be said? It was after all that awful hussy Eve whose fatal allure finally led us all to inhabit this vale of woe and misery. Mind you that Adam was a bit 'easy' wasn't he! All that for just a bite of an apple? Really? But such creatures fashioned thus from this flawed template should be avoided at all costs, and moreover without hesitation lest we too be cast down into the eternal pit! Etc etc blah blah blah...... and so it goes on and on and on ….ad infinitum.

So to return to Share..... Is it really that difficult to get contributions from the remainder of the fellowship? There are after all about 20,000 regular members of AA in Great Britain (but see *). Or is there something else going on here? When we previously contacted the magazine to ask for an explanation for their apparent bias towards this group (and indeed Happy Dennis) we were told that there was such a dearth of submissions that they had no other choice! We pointed out that we were aware of a number of articles sent in by members but which had subsequently never seen the light of day! What about these? Here we were pointed in the direction of the editorial policy which effectively rules out anything but the bland and 'politically' correct (even if this does only serve to mask a more insidious corruption!). But one only has to look at the I-Say forum hosted on the Grapevine site in the US to find out what AA members REALLY think about what's going on in their fellowship. Perhaps it's time for Share to grow up and follow their example. A more robust debate might serve to blow the cobwebs away and alert the fellowship to what's going on in their very midst? A little less censorship if you please!

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS The argument that a more lively debate necessarily leads to a weakening of unity …. We don't buy that for one minute! Indeed we believe the precise opposite! Obviously!

* Error - this figure refers only to a sample of groups.  See here

Friday, 12 October 2012

Big Book concordance


For all you obsessives out there!






{Seriously …... it is sometimes handy to have an index to hand!)

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Thursday, 11 October 2012

A bit of this and that!


An email from a cult member:

Just to inform you:

Kearsney [see: East Kent cult group gets its marching orders!] wed night (original Strood influence )
Now Dover wed night.

The meeting lives on is stronger and thankfully much more steps focused.

so.the Dover / Kerasney [sic] meeting will continue to flourish, sponser [sicker] people to wellness!

the members are more resoloute [sickest] than ever!”

Comment: Might try using a spell check now and then! Or maybe lay off 'the brew'! Note the explicit connection to the Strood group (West Kent cult). And finally for -  “the members are more resoloute than ever” - read ….. the fanatics still don't get it!

And also from East Kent:

Herne Bay Big Book Salvation (yes seriously!) and Dover (Monday)( two ex-AA groups now registered with the Primary Purpose cult gang in Dallas) are still listed in that directory (see here). The two contacts are Harry K and Harry A (aka Batman and Robin) although the former may have defected to Cocaine Anonymous by now (but more on him at a later date)

Lastly:

The Chelmsford Thursday meeting (listed in our GB Cult Where to Find) may have reverted to AA.......

And lastly... finally!

For the more obsessive amongst you (who could think such a thing!) we present an index of “don'ts” and “musts” (Big Book, 3rd edn). We personally counted them ourselves (yeah …...sure!). There are more “don'ts” than “musts”

Don't

1. 12
2. 14
3. 20
4. 53
5. 77
6. 82
7. 83
8. 86
9. 89
10. 90
11. 92
12. 93
13. 102
14. 108
15. 113
16. 120
17. 121
18. 126
19. 148
20. 149
21. 151
22. 157
23. 186
24. 188
25. 190
26. 194
27. 198
28. 202
29. 204
30. 206
31. 207
32. 239
33. 248
34. 257
35. 262
36. 263
37. 266
38. 267
39. 268
40. 271
41. 272
42. 273
43. 300
44. 301
45. 309
46. 318
47. 324
48. 326
49. 336
50. 337
51. 340
52. 346
53. 347
54. 348
55. 349
56. 350
57. 351
58. 352
59. 356
60. 362
61. 363
62. 367
63. 377
64. 378
65. 381
66. 382
67. 384
68. 386
69. 387
70. 389
71. 390
72. 391
73. 392
74. 400
75. 412
76. 423
77. 426
78. 429
79. 438
80. 439
81. 440
82. 443
83. 446
84. 447
85. 450
86. 464
87. 468
88. 469
89. 471
90. 477
91. 479
92. 482
93. 484
94. 485
95. 487
96. 488
97. 489
98. 492
99. 499
100. 500
101. 502
102. 503
103. 510
104. 511
105. 512
106. 516
107. 526
108. 527
109. 529
110. 540
111. 542
112. 550
113. 552

Must

1. 10
2. 14
3. 20
4. 21
5. 29
6. 33
7. 43
8. 44
9. 62
10. 66
11. 69
12. 73
13. 74
14. 75
15. 78
16. 79
17. 80
18. 81
19. 82
20. 83
21. 85
22. 86
23. 89
24. 90
25. 93
26. 95
27. 99
28. 100
29. 101
30. 111
31. 113
32. 114
33. 115
34. 117
35. 118
36. 120
37. 127
38. 130
39. 135
40. 141
41. 143
42. 144
43. 146
44. 152
45. 153
46. 154
47. 156
48. 159
49. 164
50. 175
51. 180
52. 181
53. 199
54. 217
55. 223
56. 256
57. 264
58. 269
59. 272
60. 277
61. 281
62. 286
63. 293
64. 297
65. 299
66. 307
67. 310
68. 311
69. 319
70. 325
71. 379
72. 380
73. 382
74. 390
75. 394
76. 395
77. 408
78. 422
79. 452
80. 458
81. 463
82. 475
83. 480
84. 481
85. 491
86. 501
87. 502
88. 504
89. 505
90. 506
91. 513
92. 516
93. 520
94. 524
95. 525
96. 526
97. 531
98. 533
99. 536
100. 563
101. 565
102. 569
103. 571
104. 572

Now don't you feel a whole lot better for that? Surely you must!!!

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)


PS Cheers to our various correspondents!