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The AA Preamble – contd

Here it is:

“Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.

The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for AA membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions.

AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organisation or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.”

(our emphases)

You will observe the expression “share …. with each other” above. This term does not imply that as members of AA we have acquired the right to direct the conduct of others nor are we entitled to seek to manipulate, coerce, control, or exploit them. We have not been elevated to some position of authority from which pinnacle of expertise we may berate, cajole or even lecture others. We merely pass on our “experience, strength and hope” to our listeners who, in turn, are entirely free to act as they see fit. Or to use the analogy of 'sharing' a meal with someone we do so for the profit their company affords us and the hope that they may similarly benefit. 'Breaking bread' with someone does not include forcibly inserting a breadstick into their ear or shovelling a lamb chop down their throat! This is not the sort of conduct expected of a good host!

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The new aacultwatch forum – a reminder

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Alcohol research (contd)

Alcohol Control and Public Health, Room R, 1984. In pdf-format here

Alcohol Problems and the Sociological Constructivist Approach: Quagmire or Path Forward?, Room R, 1984. In pdf-format here

Alcohol and Ethnography: A Case of Problem Deflation, Room R, 1984. In pdf-format here

A Reverence for Strong Drink: The Lost Generation and the Elevation of Alcohol in American Culture, Room R, 1984. In pdf-format here

Looking Beyond the Margin: New Horizons for Economists in Alcohol Studies, Room R, 1983

Shifting Perspectives on Drinking: Alcohol Portrayals in American Film, Room R, 1983.In pdf-format here 

Source: http://www.robinroom.net/

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Another question that didn't quite make it all the way to the AA Conference

'Questions not accepted for Conference 2014’

“7. Discuss and make recommendations on how the Fellowship should prepare in case the NHS accepts the recommendation to include 12 step facilitation in the treatment of alcoholics.

Background

1. Presentation by Mark Gilman Head of NTA given at AA.s health forum in York earlier this year.

2. Research by Professor Keith Humphreys showing the effectiveness of 12 step facilitation in the treatment of alcoholics.

Terms of Reference No. 6 This question had insufficient background material, however a similar question has been accepted for the agenda which covers this.”

Comment: How about we do precisely nothing! Whether or not the NHS decides to employ 12 step methods in the treatment of alcoholics is a matter entirely for them. This is a political and/or clinical decision. All we have to do is continue doing what we do regardless of whatever they decide to do or not to do. What we can make sure of, however, is that we neither endorse nor oppose such policies. They are entirely outside the scope of our responsibilities. (See Tradition 10).

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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The AA Preamble – contd

Here it is: 

“Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.

The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for AA membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions.

AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organisation or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.”

(our emphasis)

You'll note reference is made above to “a” fellowship of “men and women”. This suggests that AA consists of 'one' body consisting of two subcategories but with both amalgamated ie. 'and' – and that there is no suggestion of segregation on any basis in AA, no division according to gender, colour, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age (except see following), religious (or non-religious) adherence, economic group, political inclination etc etc. The 'only' requirement for AA membership is 'a desire to stop drinking'. Therefore those groups which impose (either directly or by implication) any further attendance (and therefore membership) requirements are in breach of Traditions One, Three, Four, Five and Ten. Men only, women only, straight, gay, 'newcomers', 'oldtimers' etc meetings are all included within this category of 'exclusivity' (notwithstanding the transparent fiction to the contrary appended to some of these group listings in various Where to Finds). Moreover meetings which use any form of prayer associated with a particular religion are similarly to be judged ie. the use of the Lord's prayer (Christian) at the end or beginning of a meeting. These too are in breach of AA's traditions.

The defence is sometimes raised that the membership requirement refers to AA generally and not to specific groups. But if a group opens with the above preamble it is reasonable to suppose that they endorse the traditions it contains and intend to abide by them. If not it may be that either they have given insufficient thought to the implications of what they are claiming (ie. the preamble is merely a ritual incantation) or they are hypocrites. Either way it is their responsibility to ensure otherwise. On the other hand if the group does not employ the usual introduction but has framed its own (which it is entirely free to do) then the question arises why? And to what end? It may be that the group (and the meeting) has nothing to do with AA although it advertises itself as such. Similarly some groups claim their right to autonomy according to Tradition Four (see above) but they omit to mention the second qualifying clause of that statement ie. autonomy “except in matters affecting other groups or AA as a whole”. This tradition does not imply completely unfettered latitude of action but proposes the need for consultation. Moreover it does not exclude “other groups or AA as a whole” from concluding that a rogue group should be removed from AA directories and its members excluded from service within the fellowship. Incidentally neither of these latter courses of action implies denial of individual membership of AA. That remains unchanged.

Moreover the terms 'men and women' suggest that the membership is made up of adults only. Although the membership requirement is stated explicitly these terms imply a qualification. AA, therefore, is not a place for minors (either as members or as visitors). It is our view that children should not be present in AA meetings for any reason, both for their welfare and out of consideration for others present. Members may wish to talk candidly about things that concern them but feel constrained because of the presence of children and the possible trauma it might cause them. Other arrangements need to be made for their care for the duration of the meeting. Any such provision, where it needs to be funded, should not be derived from AA treasuries but from entirely separate sources.

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AA Conference Questions 2014 (contd)

AA Conference 2014 Committee No. 1 Q 2

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“Learning from the US experience of Twelve Step Facilitation continued…

Alcoholics Anonymous Eastern Canada Regional Forum 2010, Final Report

“Some attendees said the problems that A.A. groups have in failing to connect to newcomers is a Twelfth Step issue. One attendee mentioned that detoxes and other treatment facilities have preempted a lot of Twelfth Step work formerly done by A.A. members.” (workshop report, p 3, “What Are We Doing to Keep Prospective Members from Coming Back?”) http://www.aa.org/en_pdfs/en_rf_finalrep_sept17-19-10.pdf

Alcoholics Anonymous European Service Meeting 2011, Keynote Address, ‘Unity as our safeguard’ Marie Clare L. GSO, USA/Canada

“…We also have a fellow who wrote a book and founded an organization of more “fundamentalist” members who insist on using older literature which is not the current Conference-approved version, and because they are using the older literature and conducting their meetings as they believe A.A. was practiced in its early days, they claim to be the “authentic” Alcoholics Anonymous. These groups have emerged out of fear the A.A. message is being diluted. The groups that are formed, based on this fear are rigid – if you don’t practice A.A. their way you are first off less “sober” than they are; secondly, they do not allow you to participate in their A.A. meetings unless you have converted over to their approach and adhere to their strict guidelines on everything from how to share to what to wear. Perhaps some of you can relate to these situations and know of others which can be seen as challenges to unity in our Fellowship, not threats but certain challenges. And how do we meet these challenges? As Bill said, “My own observation is that time, patience and persuasion wear down these controversial situations.” Also, ". . .the course of progress is somewhere down the middle...all of the influences, good and bad, are needed as spurs to progress..."(16th European Service Meeting 2011, p.11) http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/download/1/Library/Documents/Europe/16th%20European%20Service%20Meeting%202011.pdf”

Note: Conference Questions  can be downloaded in pdf from the GSO (GB) website. They are on pages  5-11, AA Service News, Issue 157, Winter 2013 http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/download/1/Library/Documents/AA%20Service%20News/157%20Winter%202013.pdf

Conference 2014 background material can be found on the GSO (GB) website. Follow the “Background Material for Conference 2014” link in the Document Library.  http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/Members/Document-Library

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The AA Preamble – contd

Here it is: 

“Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.

The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for AA membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions.

AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organisation or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.”

We now consider the term “fellowship”. You will note from the linked dictionary definitions that the following apply: “the companionship of individuals in a congenial atmosphere and on equal terms”; “a close association of friends or equals sharing similar interests”; “community of interest, feeling”; “a company of equals or friends” and so on.

(our emphases)

You will further note that there is no reference to any kind of hierarchy, no suggestion that any amongst this “company of equals” may assume any kind of authority over others nor arrogate to themselves the right to dictate or determine the conduct of their fellows. There are no 'experts', 'superiors', 'overseers', or even 'gurus' etc but merely a community who share similar interests. Even the word “similar” may be considered significant here ie. not identical, a term which reflects but also resolves the apparent conflict between the interests of the individual and those of the community to which they (provisionally) belong. An individual (again according to the dictionary definition) is someone who is regarded as “a single human considered apart from a society or community”. Their interests, concerns etc may be particular to themselves but sufficiently 'similar' to those of others to allow them to align themselves with that group. At no time does this 'similarity of interest' negate their individuality nor does it presuppose that they must abandon their unique viewpoint simply to accommodate the demands of the group. Indeed if the group does become so importunate then it no longer operates as a 'fellowship' but rather as yet another form of tyranny.

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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Alcohol research

The Self-Help Process of Alcoholics Anonymous, Robinson D, British Journal on Alcohol and Alcoholism, Vol.12, 143-146, 1977

“The past 20 years have seen a rapid increase in the number of self-help groups and organizations which now constitute a significant feature of contemporary life. Often referred to as the self-help movement, some of us have seen us moving toward a selfhelp society. There have been several attempts, recently, to analyses the nature of self-help, its history and its significance (Katz and Bender 1976, Caplan and Killilea, 1976, Robinson and Henry, 1977), while increasing attention has been given to selfhelp by government departments and professionals, by laymen and the media.

Alcoholics Anonymous occupies an important place in the selfhelp movement, not only because of its rapid growth into a worldwide organization (Norris, 1974) but because it is unashamedly used as a model by many of the newer self-help groups and regularly praised in the most fulsome terms (Robinson, 1976). Despite this praise, Alcoholics Anonymous has been remarkably little studied (Bean, 1975). Although there are now over 1,000 groups in the United Kingdom there have been very few attempts even to find out who goes to A.A, when and why? Apart from Edwards ' ( 1967) survey of London groups, a small unpublished survey by the A.A. General Service Office (1972) and a recent national survey (Robinson and Henry, 1978) we have very little basic descriptive material on this widely regarded organization. We have even less evidence on the extent of A.A.'s success, either in its own terms or in comparison with other systems of help. Leach, however, under the heading 'Does Alcoholics Anonymous Really Work', draws on the small number of evaluative studies in existence and concludes that ' . . . A.A. merits more understanding than the current state of knowledge about it affords ...( and that) .... the answer to the heading to this chapter is, yes, Alcoholics Anonymous really does work' (Leach, 1973).”

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The AA Preamble – contd

Now we will consider the introductory phrase: “Alcoholics Anonymous”. This should be a clue as to our 'target market' ie. alcoholics, and how we conduct ourselves generally, and in the public sphere. Although our sole membership requirement is that a potential candidate should have a “desire to stop drinking” (self-determined and self-diagnosed) it should be evident that AA deals only with chronic problem drinkers who have an established alcohol addiction and who are unable to return to what might be termed 'normal' or 'social' drinking. We are not talking about those who have an 'acute' problem, who may have developed some difficulties along the way but are able to moderate their alcohol consumption subsequently. For the former case there is really only one sure solution currently available: complete lifelong abstinence from alcohol in any quantity and in any form. For the latter there may be a number of possible treatment options none of which involves such drastic action. Accompanying lifelong (physical abstinence) there is a need also for the individual concerned to evolve some form of attitude adjustment to avoid the possibility of relapse. AA offers ONE method for developing such a change of perspective: the 12 step recovery programme. It should be mentioned here that AA makes no claim to a monopoly on recovery. Individuals within AA might make such assertions. Fortunately neither they nor anyone else speaks for the fellowship. We have no gurus (but our membership does include those who THINK they are). We deal ONLY with the alcohol problem and with no other type of addiction nor are we qualified to offer any advice on these. We have but one primary purpose as stated in our preamble.

Now we come to the the question of anonymity. This is elaborated upon in the 11^th and 12^th of AA's Traditions: 

“Eleven—Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.” (short form) 

“11.—Our relations with the general public should be characterized by personal anonymity. We think A.A. ought to avoid sensational advertising. Our names and pictures as A.A. members ought not be broadcast, filmed, or publicly printed. Our public relations should be guided by the principle of attraction rather than promotion. There is never need to praise ourselves. We feel it better to let our friends recommend us.” (long form) 

“Twelve—Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.” (short form) 

“12.—And finally, we of Alcoholics Anonymous believe that the principle of anonymity has an immense spiritual significance. It reminds us that we are to place principles before personalities; that we are actually to practice a genuine humility. This to the end that our great blessings may never spoil us; that we shall forever live in thankful contemplation of Him who presides over us all.” (long form)

For our part we regard Tradition 11 merely as a specific application of the general principle outlined in Tradition 12. There are some in AA (circuit speakers, 'gurus', Big Book 'experts' and other assorted 'snake oil' purveyors) who believe that it is sufficient merely to adhere to the letter of these traditions rather than their spirit. There are others who don't bother to restrain their egos even to this modest degree (you know who you are!). The principle of anonymity is pivotal to AA's philosophy and where practised proves to be our greatest strength, where not – our most serious flaw. What AA does NOT need are the services of the propagandists, dogmatists, fundamentalists, promoters and other essentially narcissistic personalities. What AA does need is the ordinary member who gets on with his or her life doing what needs to be done, helping newcomers where help is requested and all without any fanfare or fuss! Remember that bit in the Just for Today card about doing someone a good turn and not getting found out?

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous … and still anonymous themselves!)

The AA Preamble

Here it is: 

“Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.

The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for AA membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions.

AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organisation or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.”

Source: AA (GB) website

We thought we'd take a little look at it. Firstly this is what is generally read out at the beginning of most AA meetings. It describes what AA - and that particular group - are and are not about. We say “most” because some meetings don't read out this form. Of course they're not obliged to but if the wording varies the question you've got to ask yourself is why? If the new form adds or subtracts anything again the question has got to be why? If the group when questioned responds by saying that they can use any wording they like, and add or subtract anything they wish, or indeed read out nothing at all they are quite correct … except according to Tradition Four – we quote: 

“Four—Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or A.A. as a whole.” (our emphasis)

or if you prefer the long form: 

“4.—With respect to its own affairs, each A.A. group should be responsible to no other authority than its own conscience. But when its plans concern the welfare of neighboring groups also, those groups ought to be consulted. And no group, regional committee, or individual should ever take any action that might greatly affect A.A. as a whole without conferring with the trustees of the General Service Board. On such issues our common welfare is paramount.” (our emphasis)

So yes, it is true a group may do what it likes (according to its group conscience that is, and not merely at the whim of an individual or clique of individuals within the group) but this liberty is not unqualified. So if a group is using a different form of words in the preamble that's fine so long as that form doesn't misrepresent AA locally (ie. neighbouring groups) or “AA as a whole”. If it does again the question is why? And don't be afraid to ask!! Remember! We are responsible etc etc!

(to be continued)

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

AA Conference Questions 2014 (contd)

 AA Conference 2014 Committee No. 1 Q 2

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“Learning from the US experience of Twelve Step Facilitation continued

Congressional Hearing: NATSAP - Jan Moss 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtQJ8MWINtM&playnext=1&list=PL92FE4010DF42541C&feature=results_main   Transcript:  “…We just know that there are thousands of cases of reported deaths and abuse. There is no central repository….” (03.43 mins into film)

Psyche Murder Final.avi (Straight Inc., Cincinnati newspaper articles) http://survivingstraightinc.com/home

Alberta Adolescent Recovery Center (AARC) (Canada)

CNC News, ‘Fifth Estate’ 2009, AARC-(Straight, Inc.) part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEcJna5-VSQ

Transcript: “For [S…..] as well, healing started only after AARC, and with professional help. In the program he was told without a life-time commitment to the Twelve Steps, he was headed for jail, and institution or death. Fourteen years later he works a steady job and is very much alive.” “I haven’t been to an AA meeting in over nine years. I’ve proven them wrong. I’ve gone and done something with my life. I’ve done a lot of good. I’m a good person.”  “But for some of them it is still a day to day struggle, to accept that they are not the life- long addicts AARC convinced them they would be. Today [B…] is a professional care giver and a mother who says she can handle the occasional drink just fine. What she can’t handle are the dreams she says, still haunt her twelve years later.” “I was damaged in there, emotionally my spirit was damaged, and, you know, that takes a long time to get over it. I don’t like even you know, talking about AARC. It’s fearful. They put the fear of God into you, and that’s not something anyone has to live with. And, yeah, that’s damaging, to me, that’s damaging.” (08.07 minutes into film)

Current AARC Website: ‘Stages of Treatment’ AARC affiliation with AA: “Each level focuses on specific issues related to healthy adolescent development and recovery. The level system co-relates directly with the recovery steps of Alcoholics Anonymous/ Narcotics Anonymous (AA/NA). As clients progress through the level system, they achieve increasing privileges and responsibilities. They are expected to present increasing self-awareness, self-esteem, family cooperation, motivation and commitment to recovery. By the time the client graduates to the Advanced Recovery, he/she should have achieved an emotional acceptance, understanding and knowledge of the first nine steps of AA/NA and be actively working the remaining steps into his/her recovery program. By the time the client graduates from Advanced Recovery into Aftercare, he/she should have a firm foundation in AA/NA participation, involvement, understanding and commitment, thereby promoting a significantly higher chance of attaining and maintaining successful recovery.” (Extract, AARC Alberta Adolescent Recovery Center Website Stages of Treatment; link: “read more”) http://www.aarc.ab.ca/about-aarc/aarc-program/stages-of-treatment”

Note: Conference Questions  can be downloaded in pdf from the GSO (GB) website. They are on pages  5-11, AA Service News, Issue 157, Winter 2013 http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/download/1/Library/Documents/AA%20Service%20News/157%20Winter%202013.pdf

Conference 2014 background material can be found on the GSO (GB) website. Follow the “Background Material for Conference 2014” link in the Document Library.  http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/Members/Document-Library

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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Alcohol research (contd)

Kettil Bruun, 1924-1985: An Appreciation, Room R, 1985. In pdf-format here

Dependence and Society, Room R, 1985. In pdf-format here

Drugs, Consciousness and Society: Can We Learn From Others' Experience? Room R, 1985. In pdf-format here

The Liquor Question and the Formation of Consciousness: Nation, Ethnicity and Class at theTurn of the Century, Room R, 1985. In pdf-format here

Alcohol Monopoly as an Idea and as a Reality: Some Perspectives From History, Room R, 1985. In pdf-format here

The World Health Organization and Alcohol Control, Room R, 1984. In pdf-format here

Source: http://www.robinroom.net/

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The 'chit' system – there is a solution!

aacultwatch, in our endless quest to be helpful, believe we have found a solution to that vexing question – the 'chit' system. 'Chits', as they are known, or confirmation of attendance at AA meetings for the benefit of outside agencies (probation service, Department of Employment (or whatever it's been rebranded these days), Tescos etc etc), are quite contrary to AA's traditions (non-affiliation etc). But ever since the government found itself to be potless (due to financial mismanagement by the previous Chancellor of the Exchequer (dear old Gordon – anyone seen Gordon these days?) together with some considerable assistance from those people whose occupation rhymes with 'wankers', and thereafter assorted tax scroungers (as opposed to benefit scroungers who quite frankly are small fish by comparison) eg. Google, Starbucks, Boots,... the list as they say goes on ad infinitum) …..they've been looking around for a cheap alternative to deal with the massive drink problem gripping the UK (no doubt fuelled by rock bottom retail alcohol prices ably assisted by a Prime Minister who seems to be quite happy to renege on his original commitment to introducing minimum pricing on alcoholic beverages – we wonder why??). And what could be cheaper than free? This is where AA comes to the rescue. We provide a round-the-clock recovery service (sounds like the other AA doesn't it!), 365 days a year for absolutely nothing! But unfortunately these agencies do have their quotas to meet which means they need records (records of attendance that is). Forking out dough to send escorts with these sometimes unwilling punters to confirm attendance at meetings rather defeats the object of the exercise ie. to save the dear old taxpayers cash. So that's where AA comes in .. and now we're back to the chit system. But then that would be contrary to our traditions wouldn't it. If we participate in enforcing what is after all an outside organisation's policies we are effectively endorsing these. And we're not supposed to do that. So that's where we (aacultwatch) come in. Since we're not part of AA we're not constrained by the same obligations. We can sign anyone off for anything! So here's HOW IT WORKS! All the punters (sorry – court mandated etc newcomers) need to do is to send their details into us and we'll provide a rather nice certificate (see below) confirming attendance at any meeting of their choosing. Of course there'll be a modest administrative charge for all this (the printing, postage etc) but still far cheaper than any of the alternatives. In fact we'll even offer a bulk service where batches of chits can be supplied in advance at a discounted price. Everyone's a winner! Problem? End of! We thought you'd like it!

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AA Conference Questions 2014 (contd)

AA Conference 2014 Committee No. 1 Q 2

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“Question Background:  • Learning from the US experience of Twelve Step Facilitation

The following videos show a short history of the evolution of the Synanon cult and the consequences of the Synanon based autocratic peer structures which have been the model for addiction treatment in the US, advocated by George De leon, and now being sold to the National Health Service and AA in Great Britain via Mark Gilman.  The abuse in the “Tough love” peer structured treatment system with its roots in the Synanon cult was exposed by Journalist Maia Szalavitz in her book “Help at any Cost, How the Troubled Teen Industry Cons Parents and Hurts Kids”, (Riverhead Books, 2006.) http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Help%20at%20any%20Cost%2C%20How%20the%20Troubled%20Teen%20Industry%20Hurts%20Cons%20Parents%20and%20Hurts%20Kids

A description and flow chart of the evolution of Synanon programs 1958 to present is given in “The Cult That Spawned the Tough-Love Teen Industry” by Maia Szalavitz http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/08/cult-spawned-tough-love-teen-industry  Where these programs teach the twelve steps, it has brought both AA and these sectors of the treatment industry into disrepute.  (While watching, keep your eye open for versions of the Twelve Steps and Serenity Prayer etc. on the walls of the treatment centers in some videos). Some people may find some of the footage disturbing.  Exposure of brainwashing and abuse in these programs, by charities such as  Community Alliance of the Ethical Treatment of Youth (CAFETY) http://www.cafety.org/ Official You Tube page: http://www.youtube.com/user/CAFETYonline and Alliance For The Safe, Therapeutic & Appropriate Use of Residential Treatment (ASTART) http://astartforteens.org/ led to a Congressional inquiry into abuse in residential programs and introduction of the bill: H.R. 1981: Stop Child Abuse in Residential Programs for Teens Act of 2013 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr1981

Synanon cult 1958-1991    Short Film  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZPeOT_qS44

The Seed 1970-2001   WTVJ News: A Seed of Hope (The Seed Indeed) -Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPc2pVYAB8I  Transcript:“The founder and director of the seed is Art Barker. He has no credentials to speak of. He was a stand-up comedian in a night club at one time, and during that career became an alcoholic. Art Barker at forty seven is not a psychologist, but he adapted from the alcoholics Anonymous program he entered eleven years ago a new hope for an entire generation of youngsters destined to spend their formative years caught up in a nationwide drug craze. Art Barker is a fanatic about his program….” (04.43 – 05.14 mins The Seed Indeed -Part 1) A Seed of Hope -Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ldC--84Hak  A Seed of Hope -Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnoEiJ6QwuM  A Seed of Hope Out-takes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP06LNhLllE A 1974 Congressional investigation led by Senator Sam Ervin into behavior-modification programs, reported that The Seed’s “More intensive forms of encounter groups begin at first by subjecting the individual to isolation and humiliation in a conscious effort to break down his psychological defences. Once the individual is submissive, his personality can begin to be reformed around attitudes determined by the program director to be acceptable. It is similar to the highly refined brainwashing techniques employed by the North Koreans." (“Help at any Cost, How the Troubled Teen Industry Cons Parents and Hurts Kids, Maia Szalavitz, pp.22-23)

STRAIGHT INC. 1976- 1993 Kids Inc.(1984-98) Pathway family Center (1993-present) Congressional Hearing 2008; Straight Inc. model pervades http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyK3XlsWIEQ Over the GW - full movie : http://vimeo.com/28493462 (The film referred to in 2008 Congressional Hearing: Straight Inc. model pervades) Surviving Straight, The documentary: http://www.survivingstraightincthemovie.com/ Straight Inc. Boston: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JBV2_etGk CBS News: Kids and Straight Inc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDH3IT_ddTc The Times Online: SAFE = Straight Inc. – Part 1 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PXmvknypI&list=PLBE196CC2C08C3212  The Times Online: SAFE = Straight Inc. – Part 2 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQ5AdRb420&list=PLBE196CC2C08C3212 WCPO TV: Kids Helping Kids - Pathway Family Center http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OfCXLdOAwk WCPO TV:  investigates Kids Helping Kids closure:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIMcJ0MlFU&list=PLBE196CC2C08C3212  "Getting Straight" - ABC News 20/20 - 1983  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EccdPYsyrjQ West 57th KIDS and Straight Inc., Virgil Miller Newton exposed - Part 1 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrlFzv5x2Sw&list=PLBE196CC2C08C3212  West 57th KIDS and Straight Inc., Virgil Miller Newton exposed - Part 2 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1KKnFTZVnI&list=PLBE196CC2C08C3212”

Note: Conference Questions  can be downloaded in pdf from the GSO (GB) website. They are on pages  5-11, AA Service News, Issue 157, Winter 2013 http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/download/1/Library/Documents/AA%20Service%20News/157%20Winter%202013.pdf

Conference 2014 background material can be found on the GSO (GB) website. Follow the “Background Material for Conference 2014” link in the Document Library.  http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/Members/Document-Library

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Alcohol research

Patterns of Drinking and AA Attendance Following Alcohol Rehabilitation, Kolb D, Coben P, and Heckman NA, Military Medicine, Vol. 146, 200-204, 1981 

“Previous studies of outcome for Navy enlisted men treated in alcohol rehabilitation facilities have relied heavily upon completion of obligated service, type of discharge awarded, and recommendation for reenlistment as criteria of effectiveness (1,Z). These effectiveness criteria reflect primarily the disciplinary problems a man has experienced during his service career, whether or not the infractions were associated with drinking. Among older men (age 26 or older), post-treatment effectiveness rates by these criteria have approached 90 per cent; among younger men effectiveness rates have ranged between 55 and 60 per cent, not very different from the effectiveness rate for young men in their first enlistments not involved in alcohol treatment (3). Navy rehabilitation programs rely heavily on an Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) approach and discourages any continued use of alcohol. Men leaving rehabilitation are encouraged to continue participation in AA, and are advised whom to contact at their next duty station. No information has been systematically obtained from former rehabilitation participants about their post-treatment experience, including alcohol consumption patterns and participation in AA, The present study was designed specifically to gather such information in an effort to provide a rational basis for assessing treatment goals and methods.”

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A conference question? Almost!

'Questions not accepted for Conference 2014’

“6. Would Conference discuss whether Intergroups have the authority to refuse groups recognised by GSO the right to participate in the Service Structure of the Fellowship with specific regard to Traditions One and Three?

Would they also give recommendations as to how Groups who are persistently refused their right of participation (Concept 4) can actively practice Tradition Five, and what support the General Service Board and General Service Office should give to Groups who are actively discriminated against at local level?

Background

Over the past 7 years one group, registered with GSO, have been refused their request to participate in their local Intergroup and after several years of this discrimination two other local surrounding Intergroups also refused them entry without any regard to the Guidelines, Traditions or Concepts.

In an attempt to give their members the right to active service they have tried to involve the support of the GSB and GSO but have been told that this is a local problem and should be resolved at local level but unfortunately the discrimination continues.

Terms of Reference No. 6/7 Under Tradition 4 Conference cannot intervene in a matter of autonomy for an Intergroup, any more than it could for a group.”

Comment: The above refers, of course, to the long standing battle between the Bournemouth Road to Recovery cult group and the adjoining AA intergroups. Fortunately the latter have had the gumption to refuse the various blandishments, emotional manipulation (playing the victim – a tactic much favoured in cult circles) and even threats of this rogue group (part of the Road to Recovery franchise) and have instead chosen to stick by AA principles (an example which we would suggest other intergroups throughout the country might do well to follow). We have to say it's rather amusing to observe the outrage expressed by this group (and this questioner) at the notion that intergroups (and other AA groups) should place rather more emphasis on their right to autonomy than upon the concept of collective responsibility, a strategy which has been deployed to great effect by this particular cult group as well as others of its type in order to further their warped agenda. But then it cuts both ways doesn't it chaps! It's not so great being on the receiving end for a change!

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Winchmore Hill Primary Purpose Book Study Tuesday

Winchmore Hill Primary Purpose Book Study Tuesday

Methodist Church, Green Lanes, Winchmore Hill
Time: 20.00
Postcode: N13 4EP

Concerns have been raised about the above meeting. We already have two meetings at this location listed in our Cult Where to Find (GB):

LONDON (including Greater London)

N21

Winchmore Hill: There is a Solution

Monday 20.00 Winchmore Hill Methodist Church, Green Lanes
[Contact: comes under Methodist Church]

Winchmore Hill: Primary Purpose Beginners

Friday 20.00 Winchmore Hill Methodist Church, Green Lanes

Our correspondent observes that “the amount of control being exercised …. was frightening” and that “this was the worst example of AA I have ever seen with many breaches of traditions”. Unfortunately we have no more detail that this. What we can say, however, is that such meetings are generally affiliated with the Primary Purpose movement (an outside organisation) which is itself based on Joe and Charlie's version of the Big Book, an almost frighteningly selective analysis which conveys more about their particular biases than the information contained within AA's “basic text”. But if you want to approach the AA programme 'cafeteria style' their approach will suit you admirably. On the other hand we suggest (and we do mean 'suggest') that if you wish to get a thorough grasp of AA's proposed method of recovery you read the book for yourself and draw your own conclusions, and then apply them as you see fit. By all means avail yourself of the abundant experience shared within the fellowship (particularly by those who seem to be actually applying these principles rather than merely making speeches about them ie. the assorted 'circuit speakers', Big Book 'experts', 'gurus', 'thumpers' and the like). But otherwise the final decision (and responsibility) for your well-being lies with you and not with them. Remember! It's your recovery that counts … not theirs!

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The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS If any member has more information about the above meeting (or any others which seem suspect) please feel free to send us the details (in the strictest confidence)

AA Conference Questions 2014 (contd)

AA Conference 2014 Committee No. 1 Q 2

(See the new aacultwatch forum)

“In the William White interview Mark Gilman talks of “The UK recovery movement has already contributed to a paradigm shift in addiction treatment. We can’t go back…” (p. 11) http://www.williamwhitepapers.com/pr/2011%20England,%20Mark%20Gilman%20Interview.pdf

While “we” (or should he say he?) may not be able to go back, the future direction of addiction treatment and its affiliation with Alcoholics Anonymous can be changed.  There is no sense in perpetuating a continuum of a cultic infiltration of US government policy and the addiction treatment industry, which has brought sectors of the treatment industry into disrepute and in turn, by them affiliating their programmes with AA, brought AA growth to a standstill and drawn Alcoholics Anonymous into public controversy.

To understand this paradigm shift, its power to change Alcoholics Anonymous, the NHS, and private sectors of the treatment industry into adopting a fundamentalist approach in which vulnerable alcoholics and addicts in early recovery are exploited as a resource for professionals, to be used in order to mentor others in a quasi- professional role in an enclosed “recovery movement,” it may necessary to understand this paradigm’s cultic root in Synanon, and to place this whole “recovery movement” paradigm in context within the greater paradigm shift in society towards fundamentalist ideologies that have spread across the world in the latter half of the twentieth century.  The following is a link to filmed lecture by Professor Margaret Thaler Singer, explaining how cults have evolved into the mainstream of society since the 60s and 70s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rj4R4QhQg&feature=related 

While the Synanon cult was legally enforced to shut down in 1991, its philosophy continues to be influential in addiction treatment. “Recovery Champions” and De-Leon’s “Recovery- Oriented-Intergration- System” appears to be a further step toward fulfilling the prediction of Synanon’s founder of an amalgamation of Therapeutic Communities which might not occur until after his death. The following are extracts from “The Rise and Fall of Synanon” by Rod Janzen, professor of history and social sciences at Fresno Pacific University. http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Synanon-California-Utopia/dp/0801865832/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389542709&sr=1-1&keywords=the+rise+and+fall+of+synanon+Rod+Janzen

“One of Synanon’s most important legacies is the international therapeutic- communities (TC) movement. Member organizations not only employ many Synanon people but operate according to Synanon practices, including, peer counseling, status ladders, confrontational group processing, voluntary enrolment, and at least minimal residential requirements. Unlike Synanon however, TCs sometimes employ professional psychiatrists and social workers, and many accept government dollars and oversight.   Chuck Dederich once described TCs as ‘branches of Synanon Foundation, Inc.’ and he predicted an ‘amalgamation’ that might not occur until after his death” (The Rise and Fall of Synanon, Rod Janzen,The Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore and London, 2001, p. 2)

“The Legacy of Synanon lives on in a number of venues. Synanon continues for example, to have significant impact on drug rehabilitation and prison reform via the ‘therapeutic communities’ (TC) movement. Many Synanon people, now employed as TC counsellors, continue to adhere to the foundation’s confrontational, peer-counseling approach to drug addiction” (The Rise and Fall of Synanon, Rod Janzen,2001, p. 242)

“….TCs for the treatment of drug addiction were born in 1958 when Charles Dederich began an experimental mutual aid community called Synanon. While Synanon would not sustain its focus on addict rehabilitation, its early years set the model for TCs all over the United States. The model called for an addicts sustained (1-2 years) enmeshment in a confrontive, caring community of recovering addicts -a community that provided an authoritarian surrogate family in which the addict was regressed, re-socialized and then given progressively greater responsibility and contact with the outside community. The etiology of addiction was defined characterologically and recovery was defined as a process of emotional maturation. By 1975, there were more than 500 TCs in the U.S. modeled after Synanon. (Yablonsky, 1965, Mitchell, Mitchell,& Ofshe,1980).  (‘Trick or Treat? A Century of American Responses to Heroin Addiction’  William L. White p.9) http://www.williamwhitepapers.com/pr/2002HistoryofHeroinAddictionTreatment.pdf

“..The shift from the Twelve Steps to therapy can be seen as early as Charles Dederick’s founding of Synanon in 1958…” Kurtz, E. (1999) (‘Whatever happened to twelve-step programs?’p.22) http://www.williamwhitepapers.com/pr/Dr.%20Ernie%20Kurtz%20on%20Twelve-Step%20Programs%2C%201996.pdf”

Note: Conference Questions  can be downloaded in pdf from the GSO (GB) website. They are on pages  5-11, AA Service News, Issue 157, Winter 2013 http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/download/1/Library/Documents/AA%20Service%20News/157%20Winter%202013.pdf

Conference 2014 background material can be found on the GSO (GB) website. Follow the “Background Material for Conference 2014” link in the Document Library.  http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/Members/Document-Library

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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