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Tuesday, 24 June 2014

The use of the Lord's Prayer in AA meetings


Extracts from the aacultwatch forum (old):
To my knowledge there are no meetings here in England that use the Lord’s Prayer. The Lord’s prayer is a specifically Christian prayer and is found in the Bible in the Gospel according to St Matthew. The words are from Christ where, during the sermon on the mount, he instructs his followers what words to use when praying. There can really be no argument about the Christian religious nature of the Lord’s Prayer, coming from Christ himself!

I have visited the USA on a number of occasions and I did encounter this prayer used to conclude meetings I attended in the American deep south...... I don’t really have a problem personally with the Lord’s Prayer. The sentiments expressed in the prayer itself seem fairly admirable, expressing transcendence, requesting our daily needs (“daily bread”), and the desire to not be a hypocrite (forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us). Deliverance from evil seems a sensible notion. However the fact remains that this prayer belongs to a specific religion and is therefore sectarian. It is my understanding that Muslims are forbidden to call God “Father”, and many pagan “wiccans” ….... believe in a Goddess (earth mother) not a male God, so the use of this prayer at AA meetings is sectarian, exclusive and goes against Tradition 3.

I would also like to say that there are other prayers used in AA that really stretch this Tradition, perhaps to breaking point. For example there is a meeting in Twickenham on Monday that uses the St Francis Prayer. “Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace” - the so-called “Step 11 prayer”. Again the sentiments expressed in the prayer are admirable. However the “Lord” referred to at the very beginning of the prayer is Jesus Christ, and is a reflection of Christ’s words – “peace I leave you, my peace I give you”. Also the prayer itself was most certainly NOT composed by St. Francis of Assisi (a 13th century catholic saint). The prayer does not date further back than the 20th century and was promoted in catholic mass books having been approved by Pope Benedict XV, Pope from 3 September 1914 to 22 January 1922. For more information about this prayer use the following link,


In my opinion, considering the catholic Christian origins of this prayer , it should not be imposed on any AA member by a group or a sponsor, although individual AA members are free to use the prayer or not, each according to his or her own conscience.  The fact that it is contained in the 12x12 does not mean that it is mandatory for all AA members working Step 11, as the prayer is used in the essay on Step 11 as an EXAMPLE of reflective meditation. It is not exclusive or mandatory. Other prayers could be used . Again, as the AA literature says – each one of us has our own individual journey in spiritual matters. Let each AA member deicide for his/her self what prayers to use, or not to use, and not have groups/meetings/sponsors imposing denominational prayers upon us.”

(edited to preserve anonymity)

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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Saturday, 18 May 2013

Catholics In – Oxford Group Out!


The Catholic Contribution to the 12-Step Movement

At first, there were no Catholic members in AA, but their participation was made possible by the final separation of AA from the Oxford Group.
In New York, the first Catholic member was Morgan R., who acted as AA's first unofficial liaison with the Catholic Church. Morgan submitted the manuscript of the book Alcoholics Anonymous ("the Big Book") to the New York Archdiocesan Committee on Publications and received a favorable response. The Committee, Morgan reported, "had nothing but the best to say of our efforts. From their point of view the book was perfectly all right as far as it went." A few editorial suggestions were readily and gratefully incorporated, especially in the section treating of prayer and meditation.

Only one change was requested. In Wilson's story, he had "made a rhetorical flourish to the effect that 'we have found Heaven right here on this good old earth.' " It was suggested he change "Heaven" to "Utopia." "After all, we Catholics are promising folks something much better later on!"

A Catholic non-alcoholic who profoundly influenced AA in its early days was Fr. Edward Dowling of the Society of Jesus. Although his involvement with AA was only one of many apostolic and charitable works, his influence on AA was considerable. His work is valuable as a pattern for Catholics who wish to relate constructively to AA and other recovery groups.
 
Dowling was a Jesuit from St. Louis and was the editor of a Catholic publication called The Queen's Work. Upon reading the Big Book, he was favorably impressed and saw parallels between the 12 steps and aspects of Ignatian spirituality—perhaps especially the Ignatian admonition to pray as if everything depends on God and to work as if everything depends on oneself.

Dowling made Wilson's acquaintance on a cold, rainy night in 1940. Wilson grudgingly admitted the visitor, thinking his unexpected guest was yet another drunk demanding help and attention. Soon, as they talked, the Jesuit began to share an understanding of the spiritual life which was to influence Wilson from that day forward.

This is all the more remarkable because Wilson had never known any Catholics intimately and felt a lingering prejudice against members of the clergy, of whatever denomination.
 
Wilson viewed his meeting with Dowling as "a second conversion experience." The crippled Jesuit, he said, "radiated a grace that filled the room with a sense of Presence" (interestingly enough, Wilson used the same expression, "sense of Presence," to describe his impression of Winchester Cathedral in England, which had obvious Catholic associations and where he had first experienced a desire for God many years before). Wilson was feeling depressed and angry at God because, at the moment, he seemed to be a failure:

As Wilson's biographer tells it, "When Bill asked if there was never to be any satisfaction, the old man snapped back, 'Never. Never any.' There was only a kind of divine dissatisfaction that would keep him going, reaching out always."

The priest went on: Having surrendered to God and received back his sobriety, Wilson could not retract his surrender by demanding an accounting from God when life did not unfold according to preconceived expectations. Even the sense of dissatisfaction could be an occasion of spiritual growth.

Dowling then hobbled to the door and declared, as a parting shot, "that if ever Bill grew impatient, or angry at God's way of doing things, if ever he forgot to be grateful for being alive right here and now, he, Father Ed Dowling, would make the trip all the way from St. Louis to wallop him over the head with his good Irish stick." And so began a twenty-year friendship between Wilson and Dowling, who remained Wilson's spiritual advisor.

Wilson was deeply attracted to the Catholic Church and even received instruction from Fulton Sheen in 1947. Wilson's wife Lois, looking back on it all, was sure that he was never really close to conversion; but a close friend thought otherwise: "I had the impression that at the last minute, he didn't go through with his conversion because he felt it would not be right for AA."

The simplest explanation is that Wilson remained profoundly ambivalent about organized religion and its doctrines. Just as he had shied away from the "Absolutes" of the Oxford Group, so he could not see his way to accepting Catholicism's own absolutism—in particular, papal infallibility and the efficacy of sacraments: "Though no disbeliever in all miracles, I still can't picture God working like that."

Concerning infallibility, Wilson wrote to Dowling: "It is ever so hard to believe that any human beings, no matter who, are able to be infallible about anything." In a 1947 letter to Dowling he said, "I'm more affected than ever by that sweet and powerful aura of the Church; that marvelous spiritual essence flowing down by the centuries touches me as no other emanation does, but when I look at the authoritative layout, despite all the arguments in its favor, I still can't warm up.

No affirmative conviction comes . . . P. S. Oh, if only the Church had a fellow-traveler department, a cozy spot where one could warm his hands at the fire and bite off only as much as he could swallow. Maybe I'm just one more shopper looking for a bargain on that virtue— obedience!"

To Sheen Wilson wrote: "Your sense of humor will, I know, rise to the occasion when I tell you that, with each passing day, I feel more like a Catholic and reason more like a Protestant!"

This is precisely the challenge faced by Catholic apologists in witnessing to those in recovery groups: bringing the head and the heart together.

Wilson's difficulties with Catholic faith tell us that—without dilution—we must make our faith and its graces more accessible by connecting faith with experience. This does not mean we can neglect reasoned apologetics—far from it. We must respect people's intelligence. But, as Sheen noted, in some cases, our reasoning "leaves the modern soul cold, not because its arguments are unconvincing, but because the modern soul is too confused to grasp them."

If we offer a plausible account of the religious implications of 12-step recovery, we can perhaps get a receptive hearing for a fuller evangelization and catechesis.

At the convention marking AA's twentieth anniversary (the society's "coming of age"), Dowling said, "We know AA's 12 steps of man toward God. May I suggest God's 12 steps toward man as Christianity has taught them to me." He then went on to draw out the parallels between AA's steps of recovery and God's redemption of the human race in Christ, who is both the Incarnate God and the New Adam of redeemed humanity.

Dowling concluded with Francis Thompson's poem The Hound of Heaven, suggesting that the poem was "[t]he perfect picture of the AA's quest for God, but especially God's loving chase for the AA."

Another important, though somewhat later, Catholic influence on AA was Fr. John C. Ford, S.J., one of Catholicism's most eminent moral theologians. In the early forties, Ford himself recovered from alcoholism with AA's help. He became one of the earliest Catholic proponents of addressing alcoholism as a problem having spiritual, physiological, and psychological, dimensions.

Ford said that alcohol addiction is a pathology which is not consciously chosen, but he rejected the deterministic idea that alcoholism is solely a disease without any moral component: "[I]t obviously has moral dimensions, and that is one reason why the clergyman is thought to have a special role to play.

"To answer the question: Is alcoholism a moral problem or is it a sickness, I think the answer is that it is both. I don't think it is true to say that alcoholism is just a sickness, in the sense that cancer or tuberculosis are sicknesses. I think there are too many rather obvious differences between the two to classify alcoholism as a sickness in that sense. On the other hand, I don't think it is true either to say that alcoholism is just a moral problem. There are still a good many people who look at an alcoholic as a good-for-nothing with a weak will or one who doesn't use his willpower . . .

"They keep saying, 'Don't do it again,' over and over. I don't believe he does it just because he wants to do it or because he is willful. When you look at the agony that the alcoholic inflicts upon himself over the course of the years, it seems to me to be very difficult to say he wants to be that way or he does it on purpose. . . . I think it is fair to speak of alcoholism as a triple sickness—a sickness of the body, a sickness of the mind, and also a sickness of the soul."

Wilson, impressed by Ford's insight, asked him to edit Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions (with the Big Book, this is the basic text of 12-step recovery) and Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age. In part, Wilson's concern in these books was to present the AA program in a way acceptable to Catholic sensibilities.

Ford's contribution to AA was therefore twofold: He drew on both religion and psychology to show alcoholism as a synthetic problem requiring a synthetic remedy, and he took seriously the quasicompulsive nature of addiction while rejecting both absolute determinism and the attendant pitfalls of a purely therapeutic approach. He drew on psychological insights, but ultimately shared the sentiments of Dr. Bob, who used to say, "Don't louse it up with psychiatry."

In so many ways, Ford's approach to addiction and recovery remains a model of spiritual discernment for our own time.”

W. Robert Aufill
© This Rock, Catholic Answers, P.O. Box 17490, San Diego, CA 92177

(our emphases)

Comment: Setting aside both the underlying (and explicit) evangelistic tendencies and that peculiarly clerical conceit which suggests that they may possess some special expertise when it comes to matters of morality (emphasising thereby the importance of retaining a clear distinction between the 'religious' and the 'spiritual' domains) there are some interesting questions raised here about the “moral” dimension of addiction.

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Saturday, 15 September 2012

David B, David C "Icons" and the Catholic Connection


To quote:

First of all I want to say that, although I am not a Catholic myself, I have no prejudice or issue with the Roman Catholic Church per se. The point of this report is not to denigrate the Catholic Church or debate its teachings, but to expose individuals within the Vision/Joys hierarchy who, having converted to Catholicism, are importing Catholic dogma and moral teachings into AA and presenting and imposing these upon newcomers and sponsees as AA-program in violation of the Traditions and the Preamble of our fellowship. I also wish to say that, as far as I am aware, the Catholic Church is not complicit in the activity of the Vision/Joys cult.

Around the mid-1990’s David B, founder of the Vision cult, began attending the Brompton Oratory, a large Catholic church in Kensington. This church is well known for its ornate Masses said in Latin, and its professional choir, who sing classical church music, and its very conservative Catholic outlook. I understand David B started going to the Oratory after a sponsee of his called John converted to Catholicism and invited him to go to the 11am high mass there. A number of David B’s sponsees began to attend with him also, including David C "Icons" and his sponsees, and after Sunday mass they would all have lunch at a nearby restaurant.

Around the same time as this was going on there developed a more judgmental and “Catholic” attitude to moral questions and issues. Sex before marriage was forbidden for David’s sponsees on the grounds that is was supposedly “selfish”. Then suddenly artificial birth control was also outlawed for any of David’s sponsees. This gross interference in personal liberty and conscience was enthusiastically reinforced later by David B’s successor, David C "Icons". David C "Icons" decided that promoting the moral teachings of the Pope, the head of the Catholic Church, on sexual matters was part of the message of AA. Thus unwary newcomers and sponsees were told, among other things:

1) No masturbation. It’s selfish. It’s a defect. A sin against “purity”, and something to feel guilty about.
2) No use of artificial birth control (contraception). Birth control was seen as a moral evil and "selfish" and encouraging "lust". Sponsees who used birth control were "off the program" and ran the risk of serious disapproval from David C "Icons" and co, not the mention the Pope.
3) No Abortion - abortion was described as "murder" and contrary to the program.
4) No sex outside marriage. Sex outside marriage was not allowed in the group and offenders would lose their sponsor. Thus the life saving message of AA was withdrawn from those who did not go along with this moral dogma.
5) Sex and relationships were only for the production of children within marriage. Homosexuality was frowned upon.
6) Extreme and outdated forms of sexual etiquette. For example; David C "Icons" thought that women should be chaperoned (accompanied by a responsible adult) on their early dates with men. He was uncertain a lady should even be kissed on her first date. Indeed he himself needed to consult his sponsor about this delicate matter when he had a date one evening. (It should be remembered that David C "Icons" was a man in his late 30’s and not a young teenager. This childish level of extreme sponsor dependency may make the reader laugh, but should not be surprising. Obedience to David B and the whole Vision/Joys cult style of sponsor worship definitely tended to infantilize the sponsee for life). Needless to say the lady concerned dumped him.

David C "Icons" also decided that if one was to follow a faith outside of AA, (which the Big Book suggests as a possible way of improving one’s spiritual life (pages 87 & 132) - then that faith should always be a WESTERN one. So, for example, Buddhism, Hinduism etc were strictly speaking not to be encouraged. In fact, people in the fellowship who turned to Buddhism to enrich the spiritual life tended to be mocked by David C "Icons". Only a western Christian faith would be acceptable, and of course, Catholicism was particularly to be favoured and embraced. It is noticeable that sponsees of David C "Icons" have also converted to Catholicism – Jim W for one, co-author of the big book website. And there are many others all the way down the line to the latest influx of recruits to the Vision/Joys cult.

Not long after I left the Vision cult, I was approached by a young man, whom I shall call Mr. C, who asked me to sponsor him. He was a refugee from Vision, his cult sponsor who was one of the Vision hierarchy had “sacked” him and consigned him to the ”outer darkness”. The “outer darkness” was an expression at the Vision cult which referred to the rest of the fellowship. In this case the reason was very interesting. Mr. C had been told by his Vision cult sponsor that he should consider becoming a Catholic. Rightly, Mr. C felt that this was a gross violation of his human rights and freedom of conscience, and this cult sponsor had no right on insisting upon conversion to a particular denomination. According to the AA Preamble, read out at every meeting, AA is not allied to any religious sect or denomination. However the Vision sponsor did not seem to agree with the Preamble. According to the sponsor, Mr. C’s refusal to become a Catholic was due to “a resentment against the institution of the Catholic Church” and he should look at his “defects” regarding this issue, and then pray to have them removed. This is typical Vision/Joys cult tactic. If you don’t agree with what they say, it’s because “you have a resentment”. They are always right (it’s their “humility”, you see!). Mr. C, having prayed a great deal, still did not want to become a Catholic, and so he was “sacked” or “consigned to the outer darkness” (might we even say “excommunicated”!) by the Vision cult sponsor. This incident was interesting because it revealed a tendency at the Vision cult which I had been aware of for some time - and that was the Catholic Connection.

Another incident I recall was when one of David C Icon’s sponsees (called Jim) was sponsoring a man who was Jewish and who wanted to date a Catholic girl. David C "Icons" ruled that this was not to be encouraged, as he had decided mixed religion relationships were not compatible spiritually.

David C "Icons" also produced a “Helpful Books” reading list as part of the Document he wrote called “Companion to the Big Book” – this was an early version of his current big book website. The reading list is interesting because almost all the books suggested for reading are exclusively Catholic. These include the hefty many-volumed Summa Theologica of St Thomas Aquinas, a medieval saint and theologian . David C "Icons" opines that St Thomas was the “biggest brain box ever”. I showed this list of “helpful books” to a friend of mine who happens to be a Catholic priest and he thought it looked like a reading list for someone who was studying for Catholic priesthood or seminary. It is certainly heavily biased in favour of a Catholic viewpoint.

Since all this happened, it would seem that David C "Icons" has become even more extreme, fanatical and bigoted. He has developed the “Way of Beauty” which is a concept inspired by a decree of Pope John-Paul II. David C "Icons" derides and condemns modern art as “selfish” (one of his favourite put downs of anything he doesn’t like or understand); and, indeed, for him, any kind of “self-expression” is regarded almost as a form of heresy. For David C "Icons" only the “Truth” matters. And the “Truth” can only be found within the Catholic religion. The high Art of other cultures may look beautiful, may even be skilfully produced, but it isn’t “True” so at best would only find a place in his back garden, (perhaps by the compost heap, or beside the garden gnomes). Belittling other religions, especially Buddhism (“everyone today is a Buddhist” he sighs sarcastically during one of his American Catholic TV broadcasts) is all part of his prejudice against anything that does not reflect the rigid and rigorous dogmas of his own one true faith. Clearly he isn’t a very secure person.

I don’t think I need comment on the mind-numbing arrogance, fascism, bigotry, selfishness, and sheer infantile idiocy demonstrated by the Vision/Joys cult and its leadership. It is self evident and beyond words. But perhaps I can conclude with some quotes from the literature – the real message of AA.

From the Preamble:
AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy, neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.

Tradition 10 (Short form):
Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the A.A. name ought never be drawn into public controversy.

Tradition 10 (Long Form):
No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issues—particularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters they can express no views whatever.

And perhaps David C "Icons" much vaunted “humility” might extend to apologizing for his misuse and abuse of AA, and for having damaged the chances of recovery of many alcoholics who have, over the years of his influence and activity, been alienated from AA and the AA program by his extreme arrogance, his narcissism and his demagogy. Perhaps he might like to get off his well-worn knees, clean up his AA act, and practice some genuine humility. We won’t hold our breath. “

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Thanks to our correspondent

Thursday, 29 September 2011

"The First Roman Catholics in Alcoholics Anonymous" by Glenn F. Chesnut


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"BRIEF SUMMARY:

The story of Joe Doppler, Morgan Ryan, the Cleveland Catholics (and Clarence Snyder). How Sister Ignatia devised a formula in January 1940 (AA, like St. Thomas Hospital, should be nonsectarian, extending help and healing to people of all religious backgrounds), which resulted in AA becoming 25% Catholic by Fall 1940.

Also includes accounts of the liberal vs. fundamentalist controversy in early twentieth-century Protestantism, the problems raised by the Oxford Group, and the way the Roman Catholics broadened and deepened the AA understanding of the fourth step.

The Golden Age of AA expansion after Roman Catholics began flooding into AA -- between 1939 and 1949 the AA membership grew over 750 times larger, the biggest growth in all of AA history."

Comment: An interesting analysis of Alcoholics Anonymous' separation from the Oxford Group (and their dogmatic and exclusive religiosity), and the fellowship's subsequent adoption of a more liberal and inclusive 'spirituality' (a process which we believe must continue if AA is to have any significant future role in alleviating human suffering as it is expressed in one of its more degrading forms: alcoholism). Or to put it quite simply: cults don't work!

Enjoy the read!

Cheerio

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

(Our thanks to our reporter for drawing this interesting article to our attention)