Busy …. busy ….
busy... No time to lose!...... So many addicts to 'save' and so much
dosh to be collected.... how does Wayne Butler (president/CEO) find the time!
And so …..from Perth,
Western Australia:
“Hi friends of AA,
It was wonderful to find your article on this Wayne B. and his company!
I live in Perth, Western Australia and I am a very concerned member of AA because of the same reasons written in your concerns!
You're correct …. he has been here often, got to the young members, how I have seen them change under him. They teach his words, follow like sheep!!
One of the most dangerous issues is they are preaching NO medication!!!!! I have had a young newcomer on the phone to me crying after his "Spons" had told him he was not to take any medication while coming off alcohol, this poor sweet young man had not one but two alcoholic seizures ending up in hospital, he could have died and almost did! The doctor treating him wanted the name of this sponsor from AA , this looks bad for the fellowship!! After being made to feel under the control of this "Spons" making many phone calls to AA members but not able to distance himself from this "group" he is missing/gone..
Yes he comes here to his "work shops" or using AA members not aware of his game to fund them!
The control over his followers here frightens me and many other AA members. They go out to our meetings promoting their next "Money Raising Event". And they have had many!! We were informed to have a group conscience meeting and add that we only announce changes to AA meetings or AA anniversaries. We do Not give medical advice at this meeting,please respect this in your sharing. Also if they do not, then do not ask them to share.
We have also stopped them announcing their "events" where you pay at the door, or prepay in our AA literature, this along with not being able sell their event to our members should stop the funding for his company from our true AA members!
The control is out of control!!!
God bless
….....
Perth”
It was wonderful to find your article on this Wayne B. and his company!
I live in Perth, Western Australia and I am a very concerned member of AA because of the same reasons written in your concerns!
You're correct …. he has been here often, got to the young members, how I have seen them change under him. They teach his words, follow like sheep!!
One of the most dangerous issues is they are preaching NO medication!!!!! I have had a young newcomer on the phone to me crying after his "Spons" had told him he was not to take any medication while coming off alcohol, this poor sweet young man had not one but two alcoholic seizures ending up in hospital, he could have died and almost did! The doctor treating him wanted the name of this sponsor from AA , this looks bad for the fellowship!! After being made to feel under the control of this "Spons" making many phone calls to AA members but not able to distance himself from this "group" he is missing/gone..
Yes he comes here to his "work shops" or using AA members not aware of his game to fund them!
The control over his followers here frightens me and many other AA members. They go out to our meetings promoting their next "Money Raising Event". And they have had many!! We were informed to have a group conscience meeting and add that we only announce changes to AA meetings or AA anniversaries. We do Not give medical advice at this meeting,please respect this in your sharing. Also if they do not, then do not ask them to share.
We have also stopped them announcing their "events" where you pay at the door, or prepay in our AA literature, this along with not being able sell their event to our members should stop the funding for his company from our true AA members!
The control is out of control!!!
God bless
….....
Perth”
and then... from
Rochester, New York state:
“Hello -
It looks like the
Emotional Sobriety folks are coming to my hometown for our annual
fall conference. I am very glad to have come across your site, and
the links back to their program. Something just didn't ring true. I
certainly have no intention of attending!
http://www.rochester-ny-aa.org/
you'll find a link to the conference flyer on this page
….....”
(our edits)
Comment: Quite apart from
the vicious consequences suffered by new AA members as a result of
this commercial enterprise's irresponsible activities it would seem
that the Rochester Area Intergroup is now complicit in promoting the
very same! Now what was that tradition ….. the one about non
affiliation.. And wasn't there another one about being self
supporting through our own voluntary contributions? Nah! It's
slipped our minds for the time being....... couldn't have been very
important anyway..... could it?
Cheerio
The Fellas (Friends of
Alcoholics Anonymous)
PS Rochester Area
Intergroup incidentally will shortly be receiving a link to the
above!
