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Tuesday, 17 December 2013

Oooh! Spider swallowing! ….... Nasty!


We quote:

Fellas

Thought I would draw your attention to the below article on the RTR website


In case that link doesn’t work, it is the article entitled ‘we don’t swallow spiders: the myth of aa cults’ to be found in the service articles section of the site.

Take a read of this article. It is actually quite offensive, and plays down the role of the cult in AA.

A few sections below really caught my eye:

A similar thing has happened in the last decade or so in Alcoholics Anonymous. The idea has begun circulating that AA contains groups that are actually harmful cults. This idea has spread rapidly for similar reasons to the spider-swallowing myth. It has a number of elements that appear to have some truth, and it is a highly dramatic claim. However, like the spider-swallowing meme, it is entirely erroneous and comes from a misunderstanding of what makes dangerous cults so dangerous

I wouldn’t call these claims erroneous. As the topic gets openly discussed more and more people are surfacing with the same negative, mostly horrible experiences that these ‘cult’ groups within AA inflict on people trying to understand about AA.

However - as an aid to identifying cults, lists of common elements are often put together. This can be helpful. But it is not these common elements that are the danger. The main danger is that such cults isolate members from mainstream society and from their family, or cause physical damage. It is a fallacy to say that because a group has some of the elements helpful in identification, that it is a dangerous cult. It’s like saying that because somebody is hot and coughs after a jog that they must have bird flu.

There are several examples that I know of where people do become separated from their family on some level and indeed physical (and mental and emotional) damage is caused as a result of this, and the unlucky persons involvement with cult-like dogma. The last part of this paragraph is nothing more than pseudo-intellectual tripe that has no relevance whatsoever. A common theme from start to finish with the article.

There is repeated reference to these groups not being cults as they don’t inflict ‘physical damage’ which is a tad misleading, as most of the damage they cause is on a spiritual, emotional and mental level, which for me is where the epicentre of our illness resides.

The author even throws down the gauntlet in the final paragraphs challenging readers to attend a cult group and find someone who has ‘recovered’ and not much closer to their family than before, as well as reading their stories, listening to their shares. OR you could just attend mainstream AA, get on the programme and get a well-balanced experience of the 12 step programme of AA and peoples experience strength and hope!”

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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