Extracts
from the aacultwatch forum (old)
“Well
done, I agree with you. It’s good to hear that some oldtimers in
the group also agree with you too. I think any democracy (and
therefore unity in a democratic organisation) is reliant on people
being able to constructively criticise its leaders (hence Tradition
Nine in AA) and their being able to constructively criticise
any other destructive elements in it. Key to this democracy and
unity is the individual’s right to freedom of expression (this
right and defence of it is expressed in Tradition One). I think
some good examples of this tradition in action can be found in AA
Grapevine. Here’s a recent example, on the AA Grapevine 'What's On
Your Mind Forum;' extracts from a reply to a newcomer’s questioning
of his sponsor’s attitude:
“You need to remove a
defective character, your so called sponsor ................ Glad
you have seen that you have outgrown the jerk and are ready to move
on. Glad you joined us” (Extracts from Burning Desire to
Share, 'Catholic….', Wed, 2013-03-27 08:18)
The good thing about AA
Grapevine is that you get a wide range of the varying opinions in AA.
I thought I’d put the following part of my above post which is
hidden from view in this post, so the links in it will be easier to
access:
Another good way to air
your concerns is to write them in articles to Share Magazine. You can
also do this in AA Grapevine (The International journal for
Alcoholics Anonymous) and the AA Grapevine “What’s On Your Mind
Forum” (I’m not sure if you need to subscribe to AA Grapevine to
post on the forum or not, but you could contact AA Grapevine to find
out. This sort of thing is very much the topic of conversation on the
forums. I’d have a look at the AA Grapevine "What's On Your
Mind forum", "New to AA” section first. I think I have
seen newcomers having similar experiences to yourself.
If you would like air
your views in Share Magazine, here’s the link to write articles to
Share Magazine:
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/Members/Fellowship-Magazines/Share-Magazine
Link to AA Grapevine
“What’s On Your Mind
forum” http://www.aagrapevine.org/forums/i-say-forum
Link to AA
Grapevine http://www.aagrapevine.org/
I agree with you entirely when you said “I believe we have a duty of care to protect the most vulnerable, and that means mainstream AA reaching out to the most vulnerable in the same way these extremists do.” This duty of care is a principle that runs throughout the Concepts, Traditions and guidelines.
Concept XII, Warranty
Six: “..that care will be observed to respect and protect all
minorities; that no action should ever be personally punitive;” and
“…that our conference will be ever prudently be on guard against
tyrannies great and small, whether these be found in the majority or
in the minority.”
Concepts V, IX and XII can be found online in the AA Service Manual Combined with the Twelve Concepts for World Service: http://www.aa.org/pdf/products/en_bm-31.pdf and in the AA Service Handbook for Great Britain
Concepts V, IX and XII can be found online in the AA Service Manual Combined with the Twelve Concepts for World Service: http://www.aa.org/pdf/products/en_bm-31.pdf and in the AA Service Handbook for Great Britain
Guideline
17, Personal Conduct matters can be found in the AA service
Handbook for Great Britain:
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/download/1/Library/Documents/Guidelines-Handbook/Guidelines2011.pdf
I
think what many don’t yet appreciate is that many newcomers who run
into this type of sponsorship and don’t stay in AA, carry a
negative message about their bad AA experience to their counsellors,
doctors, friends, family. This has resulted in AA being accused of
using cult like and bullying methods by some health professionals and
this has been reported in national press. The Washington Post article
on today’s aacultwatch blog (Fri 22nd March) about the
controversy that is going on in AA is another example of how this
fundamentalist neo Oxford Group/ Big Book Study cult is splitting AA
and damaging public relations. Maybe if there was more awareness of
the harmful effect this cult is having on AA public relations, then
more people in AA might be more concerned and then be more actively
involved in protecting newcomers and AA itself.”
Comment: You're best bet if you really want to sound off (and avoid excessive censorship) is What's On Your Mind (the US based forum): http://www.aagrapevine.org/forums/i-say-forum. They don't seem to have a problem with members airing their views even if they don't fit with the 'conventional wisdom' current in AA unlike GB which shut down the only official AA forum we had (conference questions) because (and we quote): "The 2013 forum seemed to encourage the wrong type of debate [we kid you not!] and does not encourage unity especially on a public facing site which could bring AA into disrepute." - the "wrong type of debate" being anything which had not been reduced to its most absolutely anodyne form prior to publication (see Share magazine for plentiful examples of the latter style).
Cheers
The
Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)
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If you want an article published in Share use the pseudonym 'Dennis from Ealing' He's in there again this month, yet I have sent in 3 articles that I can only presume are lining the waste bin. The repetitious dialogue of this man is stultifying. I have no doubt his arrival to AA was as wonderful as he says to him but how many times do we need to hear it! Is it also necessary to print page after page of the big book, we have all got one surely the paragraph and page number would suffice. Tom
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