Extracts
from the aacultwatch forum (old):
“........Some people seem to get confused with the Oxford Groups and early A.A. groups. The Oxford Groups were a different organization. When the alcoholic groups split from the Oxford Group they made it clear that they were not Oxford Groups. Nor were the four absolutes ever part of the A.A. program. Here are a few more bits on the Oxford Group absolutes:
“We are
not saints… … …We claim spiritual progress rather than
spiritual perfection.” (Big Book, Chapter Five , How it works, page
60)
“When
first contacted, most alcoholics just wanted to find sobriety,
nothing else. They clung to their other defects, letting go only
little by little. They just simply did not want to get “too good
too soon.” The Oxford Groups’ absolute concepts – absolute
purity, absolute honesty, absolute unselfishness and absolute love –
were frequently too much for the drunks… … … ... ...”
“Besides,
the Oxford Groups’ ‘absolutes’ were expressions peculiar to
them. This was a terminology which might continue to identify us in
the public mind with the Oxford Groupers, even though we had
completely withdrawn from their fellowship.” (AA Comes of Age Pages
74-75).
“In
Akron and vicinity they still talked about the Oxford groups’
absolutes: absolute honesty, absolute purity, absolute unselfishness,
and absolute love. This dose was found to be too rich for the New
Yorkers, and we had abandoned the expressions.”- Bill W. (AA Comes
of Age Page 161)
“The
principles of honesty, purity, unselfishness, and love are as much a
goal for A.A. members and are as much practiced by them as by any
group of people; yet we found when we the word ‘absolute’ was put
in front of these attributes, they either turned people away by the
hundreds or gave a temporary spiritual inflation resulting in
collapse.” - Bill W. (Pass It On page 172)”
“ …....Rejection
of the "4 Absolutes" was part of the reason AA split away
from the Oxford Groups. They do smack of sanctimonious religion and
totalitarianism don't they! And of course they are ultimately
unattainable....
I've
always wondered exactly what "absolute Purity" is supposed
to be. I know that the founder of the Oxford Groups, Frank
Buchmann, admired Hitler, attended Nazi rallies in
Germany, and held racist views. It always gives me a
shudder when I hear the phrase Absolute Purity. It sounds like
something that would resonate with the aims of the Third
Reich, or a ranting hooded Ku Klux Klan preacher,...
( or an abusive AA cult sponsor who thinks he knows it all
and is God's gift to AA and must be obeyed at all
times).
What
annoys me is when you hear people in AA referring to the 4 Absolutes
in glowing or nostalgic terms - like they are some lost
secret, or a worthy destination in recovery. Then of
course you have the non-AA websites promoting these concepts.
I've looked at several recently, including the David C Icons site,
which warmly enthuse about the 4 Absolutes as if they were part of
the AA program. Well, they are not, and never will be.
Their subtle re-introduction into the domain of AA by the likes of
David C Icons, Dick B, Wally P etc is a subversion of the
fellowship and a perversion of the program of AA.”
Cheers
The
Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)
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